Springfield XDM 10 vs Rock Island Ultra MS 10

[pds794]

I went for the PRP Ultimate Match Target Trigger for the same reason. I'm happy with the results.

Like Alabusa, I also went with the Springer Precision SS guide rod that allows the use of 1911 recoil springs. I also settled on the Wolff 26# recoil spring. 5" 1911 springs minus 2 coils fit perfectly. I also tested 24# and 28# recoil springs. The 24# still wasn't enough for hot stuff. The 28# ran fine but made it quite a bit harder to get off of slide lock.

Thanks. I was going to ask how Alabusa found a 26# spring. To clarify, you buy a Wolff spring then snip two coils off of it? Does that just make the spring a little lighter or do you have to do that for it to fit the Springer Precision rod?

[Alabusa]

I went for the PRP Ultimate Match Target Trigger for the same reason. I'm happy with the results.

Like Alabusa, I also went with the Springer Precision SS guide rod that allows the use of 1911 recoil springs. I also settled on the Wolff 26# recoil spring. 5" 1911 springs minus 2 coils fit perfectly. I also tested 24# and 28# recoil springs. The 24# still wasn't enough for hot stuff. The 28# ran fine but made it quite a bit harder to get off of slide lock.

Thanks. I was going to ask how Alabusa found a 26# spring. To clarify, you buy a Wolff spring then snip two coils off of it? Does that just make the spring a little lighter or do you have to do that for it to fit the Springer Precision rod?

I bought the 4.5 inch Commander spring from Wolff.

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[Graybeard]

I went for the PRP Ultimate Match Target Trigger for the same reason. I'm happy with the results.

Like Alabusa, I also went with the Springer Precision SS guide rod that allows the use of 1911 recoil springs. I also settled on the Wolff 26# recoil spring. 5" 1911 springs minus 2 coils fit perfectly. I also tested 24# and 28# recoil springs. The 24# still wasn't enough for hot stuff. The 28# ran fine but made it quite a bit harder to get off of slide lock.

Thanks. I was going to ask how Alabusa found a 26# spring. To clarify, you buy a Wolff spring then snip two coils off of it? Does that just make the spring a little lighter or do you have to do that for it to fit the Springer Precision rod?

I knew the stacked height of a standard 1911 recoil spring would be too long for the XDM and suspected the commander length might be. I'm glad the Commander length works for Alabusa. That's good information.

The Springer Precision guide rod only changes the internal diameter of the recoil spring to that of a 1911 flgr. It doesn't change the length really because it uses a bushing the fits flush with the front of the slide.

Clipping a couple of coils may lighten the spring slightly, but since this was an experiment to slow down the slide and improve the feel of the gun, it wasn't a specific weight that I was after.

[sparkyv]

An option to consider: I just put in the PRP spring kit and kept the factory trigger in mine.  It dropped the pull from 6.5# to 4.5#.  Good enough for me.  I still haven't tested out heavier recoil springs and the tungsten guide rod, planned for Saturday if the weather holds out.

I don't want a trigger as light as the PRP Extreme trigger. The PRP Ultimate Easy Fit trigger sounds like it would be a good fit for my needs. Anyone of you guys use that one? Also, what recoil springs weights are you all using? My carry rounds would be alternating hard cast and JHP, so I think a 20 or 22 lb Wolff spring should work well.

[Univibe]

With identical full house loads, my XDM is much softer recoiling than 1911.

[Graybeard]

With identical full house loads, my XDM is much softer recoiling than 1911.

I would say just the opposite. I'm not saying you're wrong about your perception. I much prefer the way a 1911 fits in my hand and find it more comfortable with the same full power loads.

[Kenk]

Considering the added weight of the RIA, hot loads, Eg Underwood's 135gr aren't that bad,  but yes, are still  a handful for sure

[sparkyv]

For me, I can't really tell the recoil difference with my SR1911-10 vs. my XDM-10.  I agree that recoil is subjective.  Three different experiences with similar equipment and ammo!

[10_fan]

Springfield makes an awesome weapon however the tried and true 1911 is easy to work on, rock island makes an amazing 10mm the tac 2 ultra can had in commander size or compact carry however keep in mind the new model is a double stack and the grip is a bit thick, the old style like the one I own is a single stack, amazingly accurate, I cannot load the pic as it is too large (,

[glennasher]

I have the Rock Island Pro Match 6", and it seems softer shooting than the previous Delta Elite I had many years ago. I can't compare it to the XDM 10, but the Rock Island seems to be decently well-made. I particularly like the sights, and the trigger is pretty good, as-is, though it could be better. Everything seems to fit up nicely enough.

That is not to denigrate the XDM, but I still haven't seen one of those in a local shop, whereas the RIAs seem to be everywhere locally.

I still had several hundred rounds of reloaded ammo for the old Colt, and they seem to work the RIA well enough.

[Kenk]

If you don't mind the weight (2.5 lb empty) The RIA Ultra FS, HC 10 is a great value. It's very accurate and well made for the price, aprx $700.00 give or take, and yes, the adjustable rear sight and trigger are surprisingly nice as well

Ken

https://www.armscor.com/firearms/ria/rock-series/rock-ultra-fs-hc-10mm/