Powder suggestions for 180 and 200gr JHP

Started by Cherokeetracker, September 10 2020 05:41:15 PM MDT

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Cherokeetracker

Working up loads for the NEW Swift 10mm bullets. Go to swiftbullets.com  and click on bullets,,,
You will have to scroll all the way down to get a look at them. Please note the OAL of each bullet.
This can be used to safely extrapolate a load from another manufacturer or to start out with Quick Load. I think that Speer and Hornady bullets are a little shorter

I will tell you right now that if you could run one of these Aframes to 3000fps it would not hurt it and it's not going to come apart. Swift bullets are tough and have the most bullet integrity of any bullet I have used.
Blue Dot
Vhitavouri N105
AA#9
What others?

The_Shadow

Well I have used a lot of Blue Dot over the years but haven't worked wit the Swift 10mm bullets.  Personally they are too expensive in my opinion.
We have a great load data section listed here: http://10mm-firearms.com/reloading-10mm-ammo/10mm-load-data-collection/
Of those powders listed:
I have loaded 10.6 grains Blue Dot with the 200 grain XTP making 1200 + from my 5" barrel
AA# 9is also another I have used 13.0 grains with the 200 XTP also making 1200+ from my 5" barrel
I haven't worked with N-105 although others have...
Now I will say that carefully charges of Longshot or IMR800X up to 9.4 grains will get 1245 fps & 1230 fps as top end loads.  (While I have tested higher it is hard on brass and the firearms)

Recent work with Alliant BE-86 and 200 Grain Gold Dots I used 8.4 grains making 1237 fps.
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
NRA Life Member
Southeast, LoUiSiAna

Kenk

For me, Blue Dot and BE-86 have worked very nicely

Ken

Muskrat

As a VERY broad generalization, for getting a 200 grain bullet @ or above 1200 fps:

Blue Dot is the most accurate.
Longshot provides the most velocity.
AA#9 splits the difference.

Those Swift bullets are interesting, but unless you can get them going significantly faster than hot pistol velocities I have a hard time seeing what they will do better than a XTP or Federal's 180 grain Trophy Bonded...a bullet that is already too tough to reliably expand under 1400 fps. I can see them being just the ticket from a rifle or long-barrel Contender, or better yet the 10mm Magnum.

TonyRumore

#4
Of those powders, I would go with N105.  Here's some data from one of my 6" Witness pistols.

10.0gr N105 200gr XTP 1217fps

11.9gr N105 180gr Speer GD 1390fps
11.5gr N105 180gr Sierra HP 1384fps

RP cases, CCI 300.  You will need to reduce the load if you go with magnum primers.

Start low and work up.  This isn't with Swift bullets nor is it pressure tested.

Tony

AlinMi


Gzig5

Quote from: The_Shadow on September 11 2020 08:29:49 AM MDT
Well I have used a lot of Blue Dot over the years but haven't worked wit the Swift 10mm bullets.  Personally they are too expensive in my opinion.
We have a great load data section listed here: http://10mm-firearms.com/reloading-10mm-ammo/10mm-load-data-collection/
Of those powders listed:
I have loaded 10.6 grains Blue Dot with the 200 grain XTP making 1200 + from my 5" barrel
AA# 9is also another I have used 13.0 grains with the 200 XTP also making 1200+ from my 5" barrel
I haven't worked with N-105 although others have...
Now I will say that carefully charges of Longshot or IMR800X up to 9.4 grains will get 1245 fps & 1230 fps as top end loads.  (While I have tested higher it is hard on brass and the firearms)

Recent work with Alliant BE-86 and 200 Grain Gold Dots I used 8.4 grains making 1237 fps.

@the_Shadow
What do you use for a loaded OAL with that load of Blue Dot and 200XTP?  I just got some of this powder and would like to load some 200 XTP to take to deer camp in two weeks but I have little to no time for development.  Would you consider 10.5gr of Blue Dot safe for a 6" Witness Hunter in new Starline cases and Win or Wolf primers?  I could load a small ladder test tonight and get it done this weekend.  So far book loads of Unique and Longshot have worked as expected with other bullets so I don't think I have a tight or goofy barrel.

The_Shadow

Gzig5, I try to load all my 10mm Jacketed stuff at 1.2520"
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
NRA Life Member
Southeast, LoUiSiAna


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