Longslide 1911s

phydaux · August 09 2020 01:06:25 PM MDT

I'm considering a 10mm long slide 1911.

First thing I need to mention is that I'm left handed, so I need an ambi safety. That cuts out the Kimber and the Dan Wesson, since they don't come from the factory with an ambi. I'm also a bit snobbish when it comes to 1911s with bull barrels rather than bushings, or external extractors. So that has me wrinkling my nose at Sig and Rock Island pistols.

Right now I'm looking hard at a Remington R1 Hunter. A few YouTube videos highlight a FTF problem with the Remington R1 series.

Now when it comes to 1911s, IMO the pistol is still going through break-in during the first 500 rounds, so I ignore any FTFs or FTEs during that period. Also, it is well known that 1911 malfunctions & stoppages can usually be traced to the magazine rather than the pistol itself. So the first thing I do when I get a new 1911 is I get five Wilson Combat magazines, and I only run those magazines, or Chip McCormick's, in my 1911s.

I haven't been able to get a clear answer if Remington R1 series pistols still have FTF issues after a break-in, through cleaning & lubrication, and while using top quality magazines.

Now for a few dollars more I could get a longslide TRP, even though that one has a bull barrel. But recently I have also stumbled across Fusion Firearms, and their 10mm longslide 1911 pistols (currently out of stock). As I prefer the profile of a 1911 without an accessory rail (the R1 & the TRP both come with rails), I may go that route. That would actually be a plus for me, since I could also order the Fusion with three dot sights, and the R1 doesn't come with three dot sights.

Does anyone else know of any good quality current production 10mm longslide 1911s?

phydaux · August 09 2020 01:11:50 PM MDT

"Does anyone else know of any good quality current production 10mm longslide 1911s?"

And is anyone else as fussy when it comes to 1911 pistols as me? Am I being a weirdo, or is it common among 1911 aficionados?

I think it must be common, since good 1911 pistol smiths don't seem to have any difficulty staying busy.

The_Shadow · August 09 2020 02:00:50 PM MDT

You might want to try Fusion Arms https://fusionfirearms.com/

Give Robert Serva a call

phydaux · August 09 2020 02:59:38 PM MDT

Quote from: The_Shadow on August 09 2020 02:00:50 PM MDT
You might want to try Fusion Arms https://fusionfirearms.com/

Give Robert Serva a call

Yes, I mentioned them toward the end of my OP. Their 10mms are out of stock. They cost a little more than the R1, but a little less than the TRP. And I could get one with exactly the features I'm looking for.

Muskrat · August 09 2020 05:05:38 PM MDT

No personal experience with the Remington handguns, but I've yet to hear anything very good about them.

As for 1911's...all the 1911 Geeks I know view a factory gun...ANY factory gun...as a lump of clay they can mold. Most of them will replace half the parts and put twenty-hours of smithing into a factory gun before they even fire it. In the end they get a gun that will reliably shoot one specific load that is tuned to the gun, and it might shoot other loads, too.

I envy their guns...especially the triggers. But it's just too much fiddlephucking for me to deal with when for 1/3rd the cost I can buy a Glock that will shoot any ammo made, all day long, while still letting me outscore them at matches by a significant margin.

phydaux · August 09 2020 06:08:50 PM MDT

Glocks have their merits. I would never tell someone who bought a Glock that they made a mistake. But I love 1911s, and a high end 1911 is a work of art.

DenStinett · August 09 2020 09:34:25 PM MDT

Doesn't Rock Island still offer a 6" 10mm 1911
The Match Ultra:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/876144122

marlin39a · August 10 2020 05:21:04 AM MDT

I've got the 6" TRP. I'm extremely pleased with it.

phydaux · August 10 2020 06:11:35 PM MDT

Tyler Serva from Fusion Firearms tells me that they will have 10mm pistols back in stock in October.

phydaux · August 10 2020 08:09:47 PM MDT

So been sorely tempted to pick up a 10mm, and looking at various ones. Then I googled what 10mm ammo is currently selling at.

I was reminded why I don't shoot my .45 ACP 1911 much anymore, and why my last pistol purchase was a P320 in 9mm.

I can see my way clear to paying $1800 for a pistol I know I'm going to love, but if ammo is over .75 cents a round I won't ever shoot it.

Thanks for all your help, guys. See you around the range. I'll be the guy shooting mouse farts.

sqlbullet · August 11 2020 06:16:18 AM MDT

Current at J&G sales, the cheapest 9mm they have in stock is 75¢ per round. 10mm is 50¢ per round in stock. Sounds like you need to buy that gun so you can shoot the cheap ammo that is in stock ${$default_tongue_smiley}$

And if you pick up your brass you can resell it here to reloaders and probably get 8-10¢ per piece.

In normal times I would agree that 10mm is going to run more than 9mm, but you can find it for under 30¢ per round if you shop.

Muskrat · August 11 2020 08:36:13 AM MDT

75¢ for a piece of 9mm...unbelievable. I just LOVE the gun rag experts and you tube jockeys who have been preaching the wisdom of sticking with NATO calibers, because there will always be plenty of ammo for them...

I guess another viewpoint is that if you've got $1800 to spend on a handgun, you can probably come up with a few hundred bucks for a reloading press. Roll your own 10mm for fifteen-cents a round.

sqlbullet · August 11 2020 10:44:32 AM MDT

I know...right.

SG ammo has NO 9mm Luger in stock right now.

But they have 38 Super for 40¢ per...

phydaux · August 12 2020 08:36:16 PM MDT

Quote from: Muskrat on August 11 2020 08:36:13 AM MDT
75¢ for a piece of 9mm...unbelievable. I just LOVE the gun rag experts and you tube jockeys who have been preaching the wisdom of sticking with NATO calibers, because there will always be plenty of ammo for them...

I guess another viewpoint is that if you've got $1800 to spend on a handgun, you can probably come up with a few hundred bucks for a reloading press. Roll your own 10mm for fifteen-cents a round.

I've been actively resisting reloading since the '80s.

Muskrat · August 12 2020 10:06:10 PM MDT

Quote from: phydaux on August 12 2020 08:36:16 PM MDT

I've been actively resisting reloading since the '80s.

Ya...that's fine. I started reloading about thirty years later than I should have, in retrospect. But it's not like getting into reloading is like trying to pass the Bar Exam, or getting a Private Pilot's License, or even learning to play a harmonica skillfully enough that you won't bet booed out of a grade-school talent contest. It's actually fantastically simple, not very expensive to start up in, and once you get the hang of it, it's as relaxing as knitting.

...Or spend 75¢ every time you pull the trigger on a FREAKING 9mm PISTOL, which could cost you less than a US dime...your call.

If you shoot a few hundred rounds a year then reloading doesn't make sense. Neither does choosing a weapon based on the price of ammo...at a few hundred rounds a year, who cares?

But if you want to be a shooter you need to shoot...pony up for the ammo, one way or another. I shot up 400 rounds this afternoon, and to me it was just a great excuse to get rid of a load that had proven to be not as accurate or consistent as I would have liked. That four-hundred round practice session cost me $48 in hard currency.

Again...your choice