Suggestion for new type of ammo testing

[Intercooler]

    If I get to the range at the right times I can sneak in some off-topic type of testing. I have plenty of HP's and was thinking about doing water jug tests since the pool of ammo for Chronographing is about at the end. I'm open to something with easy setup that may tell us how these perform.

[sqlbullet]

I did some water jug testing with 205 grain WFN a year or so ago.  From my Elite Match my handloads went through eleven gallon milk jugs.  That was all that would fit on the table.  Bullet was not recovered.

That lead me to conclude that I needed a denser medium to test my that particular load.  It is my black bear defense load for the mountains.  I don't have the data in front of me, but I believe it was 12.5 grains of #9 with a CCI 300 primer.

I have been thinking about using some plastic bins from big lots or all-a-dollar that I can fill with newspaper, put in the suburban and then top off with water the night before.  Then when I get to the shooting area, just pull them out and shoot.

[Intercooler]

11 empty right? In watching videos I rarely see any ammo tested with water jugs pass through more than 5. One video of a .500 Magnum may have topped 7.

[sqlbullet]

11 full of water.

Keep in mind this is not a hollow point round.  The exit hole in the eleventh jug showed the slug had not expanded at all.

And yes, I was shocked as all get out.  I never would have thought it would make it through them all.  I had witnesses who were equally surprised.

Maybe our water hear in mountains is less dense.

[Intercooler]

Firing into a log and recovering... what is that like?

[sqlbullet]

I haven't done that for years.  Recovery is a real pain to accomplish without wrecking the slug because it doesn't usually follow a straight path.

[uz2bUSMC]

    If I get to the range at the right times I can sneak in some off-topic type of testing. I have plenty of HP's and was thinking about doing water jug tests since the pool of ammo for Chronographing is about at the end. I'm open to something with easy setup that may tell us how these perform.

Well, I don't know what kind of freedom you have at your range or how much you want to spend but... I've done some testing on pork shoulders and it's fairly informative.

Turn this

into this

[REDLINE]

I think I need some pork shoulders.

[sqlbullet]

i like shooting watermelons to teach gun safety to small children.  buy it a few days ahead.  have an activity were they decorate them and name them.  then they get a little attached and you have them shoot it with a 22mag.

that helps them understand the permanence of a gunshot wound.

[Intercooler]

Does anyone follow tnoutdoors9 on YouTube? I have bugged him about doing testing with 10mm and offered to donate ammo. He recently bought a .357 GP100 and started doing those tests. In one of his videos he said 10mm testing by the end of 2012! He uses ballistics gel and his videos and results are top notch. I may just wait to see what he does... he isn't familiar with Underwood Ammo right now.

[The_Shadow]

The meat testing I do is when I actually get to shoot animals while hunting!  Even then meat is too expensive to waste!

[uz2bUSMC]

The meat testing I do is when I actually get to shoot animals while hunting!  Even then meat is too expensive to waste!

It was a sad day but the pork shoulder was more cooperative than live animals.

[Vice]

i like shooting watermelons to teach gun safety to small children.  buy it a few days ahead.  have an activity were they decorate them and name them.  then they get a little attached and you have them shoot it with a 22mag.

that helps them understand the permanence of a gunshot wound.

+1

What really struck home with me growing up, but very difficult to do these days, shooting wrecked cars.  I was amazed as a kid the damage a bullet could do to various parts of an automobile.

[REDLINE]

Maybe I'm just too much of a blend of common sense and realism, just odd to me Gun Safety needs to be taught.  And clearly it does NEED to be taught for many.

I mean, isn't the sound of round being touched off while not wearing hearing protection enough to strongly suggest;  Hey, maybe I shouldn't point that thing in any direction I wouldn't want a bullet headed toward.  Nevermind me, just have a hard time understanding carelessness and ignorance.

[sqlbullet]

Maybe I'm just too much of a blend of common sense and realism, just odd to me Gun Safety needs to be taught.  And clearly it does NEED to be taught for many.

I mean, isn't the sound of round being touched off while not wearing hearing protection enough to strongly suggest;  Hey, maybe I shouldn't point that thing in any direction I wouldn't want a bullet headed toward.  Nevermind me, just have a hard time understanding carelessness and ignorance.

Keep in mind I am teaching a then 4 and 5 year old on the young side.  The 8 and up crowd are pretty solid.