Corona Virus, Left wingers, and guns.

Started by Graybeard, March 17 2020 06:01:41 AM MDT

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Graybeard

Has anyone else been approached by someone who was anti-gun rights that now wants to know where and how fast they can get a gun? I'm a little torn on this issue. My advice thus far has been if you don't have any experience or training, now is not the time. I will gladly introduce them to shooting once this is over. Where I'm torn is a small piece of me wants to say, "screw you," you've voted against our rights in the past.

On the plus side, I've seen a couple of articles describing online gun dealers having to explain to potential customers that you can't just order a gun and have it delivered to their house, regardless of what politicians/anti-gunners have told you. Perhaps the silver lining here is that some will receive an education on this and end up with a greater understanding of our firearms laws.

It's not in my nature to turn away people asking for help. But I'm not going to help anyone become a greater danger to themselves or others, either.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

tommac919

They just want to protect their TP hoard.   :))

Giving guns to untrained, that would be more dangerous

Graybeard

#2
Exactly, and that's why I'm struggling with this a little. Partly, I'm thinking why would I volunteer to teach these people to shoot later when I'm starting to feel they're too stupid. On the other hand, more people who are educated in the realities of firearms benefits all of us. I think I'm going to have to reevaluate my thoughts on some people based on their current behavior.

5pins

I would point them to most expensive gun store in town.

Muskrat

I'd tell them go buy a can of bear spray. They'll be infinitely safer, as will the rest of us.

Keiichi

#5
I suppose you'd know this Graybeard, but I figured a level headed reiteration was worth it. How they bring up the subject is key.

In my view it comes down to a judgement on your part - are they sincerely looking for help to protect themselves and their family long-term? Or are they panicked looking for a quick fix to a problem they don't fully comprehend?

In the latter case, turn them down but direct them to a local store to take a training course, and caution them against any kind of rash action.

If they're sincere and you're willing to devote the effort, start with safety first and impress on them the responsibility they take on if they start down this road. They need to be comfortable with a firearm and its necessary implications before they buy one. If they're genuine, they'll be willing to be patient and eager to learn.

Here's a good article on TFB posted today on the safety topic.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/03/17/new-gun-safety/
"The meek shall inherit the Earth" is a mistranslation. Properly translated it would say: "Those who have swords and know how to use them, but keep them sheathed, shall inherit the Earth". Carry every day.

A mark of a mature individual is a mastery of dangerous things.

Si vis pacem, para bellum.

Graybeard

Keiichi, you've hit the nail on the head. It's the panicked, short term solution thing that's causing me to pull back. I've basically taken the position that you described. Unfortunately, I've been getting emails the last few days that most of the ranges in my area have cancelled their classes.

The thought of a new group of gun owners that became so out of panic and only have the owners manual and movies/TV for experience is a bit disconcerting. Perhaps we should all take a look at our friends and acquaintances when the coronavirus panic is over. Encourage those that became first time gun owners to fully understand the safety and competency aspects and become proper members of the firearm community. Perhaps also encourage those without the right mindset to give up the idea, as well.


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Saw something to this effect the other day.

In general I invite them over, show them a variety of guns and they end up deciding on a Glock 19 in most cases.

Which is odd, cause I push the surplus Jericho 941's that are on gunbroker right now for $325, or the Beretta 81's that are about $200 now.

Graybeard


Mike D

So some of you feel mandatory training should be required to own a gun?


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sqlbullet

I think of firearms training like seat belts and helmets.  You are kinda stupid if you don't, but the Gubment shouldn't make you.

Graybeard

Quote from: Mike D on March 18 2020 12:39:27 PM MDT
So some of you feel mandatory training should be required to own a gun?


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Nope, not sure where you got that impression. I think if you're not willing to take the proper steps to ensure your own competency with firearms, they're probably not a good idea for that person. Anything mandatory has the potential to involve political goals.

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tommac919

and the above is why all here should reload....

Kenk

Our local Fleetfarm was very low the other day too...good thing I have a ton already 😀


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