Hot reloads ring of fire

[Lorditet]

The lack of the ring during the flash is likely the lack of gas volume being expelled vs. actual velocity attained of the expelled gases to roll up the rings...

Looking at the loads and cases you posted you are really pushing that powder beyond the safe limits...

All of the LOVEX powders are said to be somewhat flash suppressed...

This is the maxspeed on 140 grain of I remember it right. If i understand you right I need more air in the shells? Now i have almost none. 357 magnum get rings, is it much more volume in 357?
Would it help to convert my pistol to 9x25 dillon or is the magnum shells its all about?
Om not slow but english isnt my main language

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[The_Shadow]

This is the maxspeed on 140 grain of I remember it right. If i understand you right I need more air in the shells? Now i have almost none. 357 magnum get rings, is it much more volume in 357?
Would it help to convert my pistol to 9x25 dillon or is the magnum shells its all about?
Om not slow but english isnt my main language

I wasn't referring to there being AIR SPACE in the case...
The oxygen that gets used up is built into the chemistry of the smokeless powder, as the dense powder burns and consumes everything and uses up the oxygen also.  Then the large volume of the hot gases jets out the barrel and mixes with the oxygen rich fresh air to ignite and give the flash you can see. 

Have you tried the VV N105 powder for the 10mm as it is slower burning and denser powder than the VV 3n38?

Not sure if it will even get you the fire rings you are looking for, but you might give it a try...

[Lorditet]

This is the maxspeed on 140 grain of I remember it right. If i understand you right I need more air in the shells? Now i have almost none. 357 magnum get rings, is it much more volume in 357?
Would it help to convert my pistol to 9x25 dillon or is the magnum shells its all about?
Om not slow but english isnt my main language

I wasn't referring to there being AIR SPACE in the case...
The oxygen that gets used up is built into the chemistry of the smokeless powder, as the dense powder burns and consumes everything and uses up the oxygen also.  Then the large volume of the hot gases jets out the barrel and mixes with the oxygen rich fresh air to ignite and give the flash you can see. 

Have you tried the VV N105 powder for the 10mm as it is slower burning and denser powder than the VV 3n38?

Not sure if it will even get you the fire rings you are looking for, but you might give it a try...

With N105 I get sparks for some reason. I attached a picture. I an really grateful for you knowledge. Maybe I should accept the facts and buy a 454 casull or something

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[BEEMER!]

I think I have heard everything now.  WOW!   

[Lorditet]

I think I have heard everything now.  WOW!   

Being dumb or being brave is a thin line they say.

[rognp]

I have to ask, Do you have good health insurance?

I think your 10mm can give you flash but youre going to have to find different powder.  Power Pistol or  Blue Dot.

[Lorditet]

I have to ask, Do you have good health insurance?

I think your 10mm can give you flash but youre going to have to find different powder.  Power Pistol or  Blue Dot.

Yes I actually have good insurance. But of course I dont want to get hurt. I thought about black powder but om scared that i get hurt.
Hard to get those powders here in scandinavia, US has strong export rules.

[Trapper6L]

Want fire rings? Get you a 357 mag, H110 powder, and 110gr HP bullets. You can almost use the case as a dipper to load the powder as it will a compressed load. LOTS of muzzle flash. I have 2 others that will light up the night, an AMT Automag III 30 carbine pistol and the Thompson Center 10" 30-30. The 30 carbine is loaded with H110 and 110gr carbine bullets. Runs flames out about 10-12 feet. While that may sound impressive, it's a major pain when night hunting. The best is the Contender. I generally use it to clear the firing line of idiots when forced into using a public firing range. You don't want to have to stand any where near me unless you just like being slapped upside the head with a shovel. The load is 35gr H335 under a 110gr carbine bullet. You also don't want to shoot it in tall grass. The muzzle flash at night is blinding, and I mean blinding as in you can't see anything for several minutes. I liken it to an artillery round rather than anything that can be hand held. I would have to say it can't get any better or bigger and still still be hand held.

[Lorditet]

Want fire rings? Get you a 357 mag, H110 powder, and 110gr HP bullets. You can almost use the case as a dipper to load the powder as it will a compressed load. LOTS of muzzle flash. I have 2 others that will light up the night, an AMT Automag III 30 carbine pistol and the Thompson Center 10" 30-30. The 30 carbine is loaded with H110 and 110gr carbine bullets. Runs flames out about 10-12 feet. While that may sound impressive, it's a major pain when night hunting. The best is the Contender. I generally use it to clear the firing line of idiots when forced into using a public firing range. You don't want to have to stand any where near me unless you just like being slapped upside the head with a shovel. The load is 35gr H335 under a 110gr carbine bullet. You also don't want to shoot it in tall grass. The muzzle flash at night is blinding, and I mean blinding as in you can't see anything for several minutes. I liken it to an artillery round rather than anything that can be hand held. I would have to say it can't get any better or bigger and still still be hand held.

I envy you. H110 is hodgdon? H110 I can find here, is that the svets powder for my mission acording to you?

[rognp]

I would doubt that you could get enough H110/296 into a case to fire, most likely it would squib and maybe stick in the bore.

3F or 4F black powder will definitely give a ball of fire and sparks too. Compressed load under a maybe 150gr bullet. Then all you have to do is clean it all up afterward, including anything you touch.

[Kenk]

😂😂😂

[The_Shadow]

Lorditet, are you by the way the person who was on Glock Talk that went by Robert91922

JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW if you attempt to use REAL BLACK POWDER, those loads need to have all air space occupied completely!  If there is Air Space / VOID between the bullet and the powder it will explode instead of burn properly! 

[Lorditet]

Lorditet, are you by the way the person who was on Glock Talk that went by Robert91922

JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW if you attempt to use REAL BLACK POWDER, those loads need to have all air space occupied completely!  If there is Air Space / VOID between the bullet and the powder it will explode instead of burn properly! 

It would surely be funny of I was but no. Im just another stupid hillbilly with camopants and a broken chevy on the yard.

[tommac919]

this thread is an injury waiting to happen IMO

[Muskrat]

I've got to say that fireball creation is the single strangest goal I've ever heard of for a shooter.