Return of Colt Python .357 Magnum

Started by Intercooler, January 02 2020 03:55:41 PM MST

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Kenk

Absolutely Trapper, we have two girls as well. Neither own them now, but will change if I have anything to say about it

Ken it

slam45

if i were to guess they will never make even 5,000 of them... they will sell a production run or perhaps 2 then discontinue them to build collector value...

BEEMER!

Quote from: slam45 on January 10 2020 06:04:30 AM MST
if i were to guess they will never make even 5,000 of them... they will sell a production run or perhaps 2 then discontinue them to build collector value...

By all the first reports I have read, they are making a very good Python.  It is not the same as the old ones but is still a very good revolver.

The start up costs are very high for a gun like this and a long run is what Colt needs to recoup their costs, collector value does nothing for their bottom line.

You really do not need short runs always to get collector interest.  They made over 600,000 of the original Pythons and look at that value.

sqlbullet

Quote from: Trapper6L on January 09 2020 04:36:47 PM MST
You're probably right blaster. My brother and I collect the old thumb busters. My favorite of the bunch is an 1898 made Colt 38-40. It's an amazing little gun. As I recall the factory duplication load is 7.0 grs Unique under a 180gr lead bullet. Great for rolling around cans shooting from the hip. The next 2 generations of thumb busters hasn't apparently effected its value so that's probably where it'll end up for the old Pythons. But then, at age 72, I could care less about value. I'll never sell one of them anyway. The wife might considering we had an all girl family and neither SILs have any interest. Unless someone finds a way to take it with them, it's all about the shooting experience that counts.

I could be adopted if you like.   :P

I have three girls and three boys.  None of them are quite the enthusiast that I am, but all are interested.  My mom bought all of them M1 Garands from the CMP a few years back for Christmas.  And they all have built AR-15's.  When they turn 18 and get their CFP I let them pick a handgun from the collection for carry.  Oldest picked a  Browning Hi-Power.  Next in line asked to build their own Glock 19.  Third grabbed a Glock 19 Gen 5.  Child number 4 turns 18 later this year and I have no idea what gun he will choose.

Back on topic, I don't know what Colt's plan is here.  During the initial run from 1955 to 1999, based on the 600,000 plus figure, they made around 13,500 per year.  Peak years would have been higher and by the late 90's they were well below that number.

The high prices we are seeing is going to slow sales a fair bit but I bet Colt will make all they can sell and then a few more.

BEEMER!

There is tremendous interest in the new Pythons.

The initial post on the Colt Forum about the 2020 Pythons was started on 12-20-2019.  Right now that thread has 863 replies and 112,716 views.

To me, that's a lot of interest.

sep

Sadly, the new Pythons seem to have a problem with the cylinder not rotating. Both Hickok45 and a younger guy from Texas with the channel name of Goldenweb have videos of the trigger being pulled, hammer going back, dropping and falling on a previously fired case. Goldenweb also demonstrated either bad ammo or light strikes with his Python and as of last night is sending his back to Colt. Hickok45 says his is going back to Bud's Gunshop where he said they would send it back to Colt.  Additionally, there appears to be some folks reporting their crowns are a bit marred as well.

Hopefully, Colt will fix these problems as I'm interested in one of these too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dO-lQEX49U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0dJPxXmhtc 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gyAlEBM6c

Graybeard

Quote from: sep on January 13 2020 06:38:03 AM MST
Sadly, the new Pythons seem to have a problem with the cylinder not rotating. Both Hickok45 and a younger guy from Texas with the channel name of Goldenweb have videos of the trigger being pulled, hammer going back, dropping and falling on a previously fired case. Goldenweb also demonstrated either bad ammo or light strikes with his Python and as of last night is sending his back to Colt. Hickok45 says his is going back to Bud's Gunshop where he said they would send it back to Colt.  Additionally, there appears to be some folks reporting their crowns are a bit marred as well.

Hopefully, Colt will fix these problems as I'm interested in one of these too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dO-lQEX49U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0dJPxXmhtc 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gyAlEBM6c

It's a little sad that Colt is having some teething problems with the launch of this new Python. I'm sure they're going to figure it out. Maybe I've gotten cynical with age, but I usually wait until something has been out for at least a year before purchasing. Let the price settle down and the bugs work out.

sqlbullet

I see it as  more than a little sad.  Colt is a company with revolver roots, more so than any other gun company in existence.  Swing and a miss when you have basic issues like it doesn't revolve.

Kimber hit the K6 out of the park.

I hope they get it on track, but this is not a good start.

Graybeard

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Quote from: sqlbullet on January 13 2020 08:59:58 AM MST
I see it as  more than a little sad.  Colt is a company with revolver roots, more so than any other gun company in existence.  Swing and a miss when you have basic issues like it doesn't revolve.

Kimber hit the K6 out of the park.

I hope they get it on track, but this is not a good start.

I see your point. To be fair, there were some K6S issues early on. Some were having a cylinder binding problem when they got really hot. This was, apparently, a very small number.

As a K6s owner, obviously this didn't deter me from purchasing one. I did give it a little time, though. I'm very happy with mine. Unfortunately, the new K6S DASA 4" is now calling to me.

Edit: It occurred to me after posting the reply above that it's a little ironic that Kimber became the huge gunmaker that they are after beating Colt at their own game with 1911s, years ago. Maybe Colt should have subbed out the Python to Kimber ;D

Trapper6L

I guess ya'll heard Colt has recalled all of the new Pythons. No reason given, they just want all of them back.

Kenk


BEEMER!

Quote from: Trapper6L on January 20 2020 08:48:57 PM MST
I guess ya'll heard Colt has recalled all of the new Pythons. No reason given, they just want all of them back.

Where have you heard that?

I hang around the Colt Forum some and nothing like that has popped up there.

sqlbullet

Youtube video I saw said that all 100 had been pulled from one specific distributor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxWNDiTY6Xs

Guys is clear that he has information about one distributor.  It can be inferred that this probably happened with all of them.  There are still new Python's on Gunbroker, about 30-35.

BEEMER!

I saw that also.

To be honest there have been some problems but the Colt guys are giving them mostly good reviews and they are a pretty discerning bunch.

The Cobras and King Cobras were not well received.

Ramjet

Small percentage of guns were effected. Not excusable but they are looking into the fix.

Larger more robust top strap.
Less moving parts comprise the trigger so it is supposed to be smoother and simpler.
Removed the thumb shelf on the grips.
Finish is really nice and the barrel is one forged and machined part with a recessed crown.

Yet I am not really drawn to it...

Lots of cool things coming out of shot show 2020