1150 FPS load with 180 XTP

Started by 4given, December 11 2019 09:36:24 AM MST

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4given

I am looking to develop a low flash load with a 180 XTP  that runs around 1150 fps out of my XDm10 4.5".

For test loads I have loaded up 8.5gr of AA#5 and 6.0gr Tightgroup

Any suggestions for any other powders / loads to try to meet this criteria?

I an not interested in full house loads. I have plenty of those.

Thanks!

Kenk


4given

Quote from: Kenk on December 11 2019 10:09:47 AM MST
BE-86 should foot the bill

I thought of BE-86 but the available load data is lacking. The Alliant Powder website only shows a max load.  Not sure if the Hornady manual has data for this powder. I don't have a Hornady manual.

Trapper6L

Tons of online data from Speer, Nosler, Accurate powder, etc that should give you the info. What might produce that velocity in my gun may be 100'ps different in yours. You'll have to play with it to get that velocity. FWIW, if you're going to buy a loading manual, buy the Lee manual. It's a compilation of all of the manuals.

The_Shadow

4given, Using BE-86 powder you may want to drop to 7.2 - 7.4 grains to yield the 1150 fps you seek...
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4given

Quote from: The_Shadow on December 11 2019 12:13:46 PM MST
4given, Using BE-86 powder you may want to drop to 7.2 - 7.4 grains to yield the 1150 fps you seek...

Thanks Shadow!

4given

Quote from: Trapper6L on December 11 2019 11:43:19 AM MST
Tons of online data from Speer, Nosler, Accurate powder, etc that should give you the info. What might produce that velocity in my gun may be 100'ps different in yours. You'll have to play with it to get that velocity. FWIW, if you're going to buy a loading manual, buy the Lee manual. It's a compilation of all of the manuals.

Yep you are correct. I'll shoot my test loads over my chrono and also shoot groups to check for accuracy.

The_Shadow

4given, I'll be interested to see how close those loads come with your XDm10 4.5".  I think the 7.2 grains of BE-86 will be on the money!
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4given

Quote from: The_Shadow on December 12 2019 01:49:38 PM MST
4given, I'll be interested to see how close those loads come with your XDm10 4.5".  I think the 7.2 grains of BE-86 will be on the money!

I'll post my results as soon as I get to the range.   Might be a little while with all the Christmas stuff going on right now. I noticed in the 10mm pull down master list that the Hornady factory loading was 8.0 gr of BE-86.   I know the box said 1180 fps but I think most guys were averaging 1155 or so out of the G20 with this load. I think I will load a few with 8.0 gr also.

I know a guy that has a G20 and an XDm10 4.5 and tells me the same loads are quire a bit  faster out of his XDM. I know that does not mean that all XDM -10's are that way but it is interesting.

The_Shadow

Yes the bore is a little tighter than the Glock factory barrel, so it will have less blow by...
Will be looking forward to your results...

When I worked up my 8.4 grains of BE-86 under the 200 grain Speer Gold Dot I saw 1237 fps from the 5" S&W1006.
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Kenk

Evening Shadow,
With the 8.4gr of BE-86 under the 200gr GD, did you notice any signs of excessive pressure?
Thanks man!

Ken

The_Shadow

I did not see any signs fired from my S&W1006 5" bbl using 8.4 grains in once fired Starline Nickel.


When Mr. Revolver Guy tested with the bullets I sent him and using this load, they worked in the pistols OK but when he tested in his KRISS Vector he did have the casing rip in half radially.  We discussed this issue and He mentioned that chamber was not as smooth and may have contributed to this.  Last I heard he was speaking with the KRISS tech about that, and not sure if the smooth or polished his chamber as of yet.

I dropped my loading to a hand weighed 8.3 grains to stay closer to 1200 fps...
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Kenk


4given

So I loaded up some test rounds with the 180 gr XTP over 8.0 grains of BE-86 in brand new Starline Brass and CCI #300 primers. According to the pull down list, this should mimic the  Hornady factory round.  This is what I was initially after. I will test them and report back.  I took some time off work for Holidays so maybe I can hit the range and do some chrono work if the weather cooperates. I'll post my results.

Johnnyreloader

Hodgdon Longshot is king in 10mm with 180gr projectiles.
Have had excellent results, loads from 1200fps to 1400fps.