Springfeild XDM

Started by Wyocaddis, October 29 2019 08:10:16 PM MDT

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Wyocaddis

Anyone had one long enough to give an opinion? LGS has the 5.25", looked at it today. Feels really good in my hand for a double stack (short fat fingers). They also had a G20 the XD just fit better. Trigger was heavy but I find that with all unmodified striker fired pistols. Anyone run one through its paces, accuracy feeding etc. Would you buy again?
Rick B.

blaster

I've had my 10mm XDm (4.5" bbl.) for almost a year now. I like it a lot. very reliable, accurate and feels good in the hand. I put a Vortex Venom on it and use it for hunting.

Bunny

A good friend has the XDm and loves it for competitions, really likes the grip angle.

hunter5567

I have the 5.2" model and the trigger was decent. No failures to fire or feed right out of the box shooting Sig 180gr ammo and Hornady 155gr xtp and 180gr xtp. It's very accurate and as you said the grip is very comfortable with small hands but long fingers, much more so than the Glock 20. I really like it and recommend it.

Graybeard

I haven't had mine (4.5) long enough to comment on much except that the trigger wasn't to my liking, too heavy and too much takeup. Swapped it out after about 250 rounds for a Powder River Ultimate Match Trigger. That was a definite improvement. The 250 rounds I fired were a mix of leftover work up loads, different bullets/charges/ lengths and the loads I settled on. All ran perfectly.

Ramjet

I have had my XDM for awhile. I like it it shoots well seems a little snappy but after running 150 grain HP it calmed down but lost nothing in accuracy. Nice guns well executed by Springfield

Wyocaddis

Quote from: Ramjet on October 30 2019 04:04:24 PM MDT
I have had my XDM for awhile. I like it it shoots well seems a little snappy but after running 150 grain HP it calmed down but lost nothing in accuracy. Nice guns well executed by Springfield

Calmed down? How so?
Rick B.

Wyocaddis

Quote from: Graybeard on October 30 2019 02:39:17 PM MDT
I haven't had mine (4.5) long enough to comment on much except that the trigger wasn't to my liking, too heavy and too much takeup. Swapped it out after about 250 rounds for a Powder River Ultimate Match Trigger. That was a definite improvement. The 250 rounds I fired were a mix of leftover work up loads, different bullets/charges/ lengths and the loads I settled on. All ran perfectly.
I am also thinking the trigger would probably be changed to exactly what you have mentioned. Did you measure your trigger before and after the change? How well did it come out?
Rick B.

Graybeard

Quote from: Wyocaddis on October 30 2019 04:21:37 PM MDT
Quote from: Graybeard on October 30 2019 02:39:17 PM MDT
I haven't had mine (4.5) long enough to comment on much except that the trigger wasn't to my liking, too heavy and too much takeup. Swapped it out after about 250 rounds for a Powder River Ultimate Match Trigger. That was a definite improvement. The 250 rounds I fired were a mix of leftover work up loads, different bullets/charges/ lengths and the loads I settled on. All ran perfectly.
I am also thinking the trigger would probably be changed to exactly what you have mentioned. Did you measure your trigger before and after the change? How well did it come out?

I didn't measure the trigger pull. Ballpark about 7lbs before and about 4-4.5lbs after. The takeup is shorter, too. I posted a review of it in the gunsmithing area of this forum. http://10mm-firearms.com/gunsmithing/prp-ultimate-match-trigger-installation-review/

Sneed

Quote from: Wyocaddis on October 29 2019 08:10:16 PM MDT
Anyone had one long enough to give an opinion? LGS has the 5.25", looked at it today. Feels really good in my hand for a double stack (short fat fingers). They also had a G20 the XD just fit better. Trigger was heavy but I find that with all unmodified striker fired pistols. Anyone run one through its paces, accuracy feeding etc. Would you buy again?

I started an earlier thread on the XDM trigger which can be summarized as awful. Some may be better than that but mine was the worst I've ever tried. I did replace it with the Powder River and that was a major improvement although a bit difficult to install for my son, who was an armorer and shooting instructor in the Air Force. He finally called Powder River and they were very helpful on the phone basically running him though the process of installation. I can not speak to the weight of pull difference but the main improvement was minimizing the horrible creep and stops in the original.

I stopped shooting the gun until the trigger could be replaced and then the weather turned so I don't have much experience with it. So far though it has handled everything I've put in it including several Underwood loads and a bunch of PPU with no difficulty. Accuracy with the original trigger was impossible to determine from a bench as I found it impossible to keep the sights centered while struggling with the creep.
No matter how cynical you become, it is never enough to keep up. Lily Tomlin

Graybeard

Quote from: Sneed on October 31 2019 10:13:59 AM MDT
Quote from: Wyocaddis on October 29 2019 08:10:16 PM MDT
Anyone had one long enough to give an opinion? LGS has the 5.25", looked at it today. Feels really good in my hand for a double stack (short fat fingers). They also had a G20 the XD just fit better. Trigger was heavy but I find that with all unmodified striker fired pistols. Anyone run one through its paces, accuracy feeding etc. Would you buy again?

I started an earlier thread on the XDM trigger which can be summarized as awful. Some may be better than that but mine was the worst I've ever tried. I did replace it with the Powder River and that was a major improvement although a bit difficult to install for my son, who was an armorer and shooting instructor in the Air Force. He finally called Powder River and they were very helpful on the phone basically running him though the process of installation. I can not speak to the weight of pull difference but the main improvement was minimizing the horrible creep and stops in the original.

I stopped shooting the gun until the trigger could be replaced and then the weather turned so I don't have much experience with it. So far though it has handled everything I've put in it including several Underwood loads and a bunch of PPU with no difficulty. Accuracy with the original trigger was impossible to determine from a bench as I found it impossible to keep the sights centered while struggling with the creep.

PRP mentions, on their website, that some XD and XDm guns have their triggers in them from the factory. Not sure if there is any way to tell which ones, in advance. Springfield makes no mention of this that I could find. That could explain the different reports on XDm triggers.

Several years ago I bought an M&P 9. The trigger was awful. Not the weight. It felt like it had gravel in it. There was a machine mark, like a swirl, under the hard chrome on one side of the sear. It's always possible to get a clinker in anything mass produced. An Apex sear solved that problem.

My original XDm 10 trigger didn't really have any creep. It was just too heavy, had too much takeup, and a little bit of stacking at the break. The PRP trigger kit, while a little expensive, handles those issues.

A little tip after fitting and installing a PRP trigger. Reassemble the gun bone dry. Dry fire it 20-25 times. Take it completely apart and look for slight scratches, shiny spots, etc, on the sear, sear safety, trigger bar, etc, and polish those parts. Particularly the area of the ejector where the sear contacts it.


Univibe

I have the 5 inch version.   Observations:

1.   The gun looks like Darth Vader's personal carry weapon when he's on earth.

2.  It has been 100% reliable with factory fodder, and my handloads.

3.  RP 180 grain is FBI light.  Sig sauer 180 is full house stuff.  They claim 1250 fps.  I haven't chronoed but I believe it.

4.  The bore is polished, like a S&W revolver.  Yay!  This means it works fine with hardcast lead handloads. 

5.  It is reliable with both lite and full power loads, and with factory or handloads.

6.  The ramp is mirror polished from the factory.  Somebody knew we'd be running hardcast handloads and went the extra effort on the ramp and barrel.   Very cool.

7.  There is  no thumb safety, but there is a grip safety.

8.  Gun handles and shoots
Well.  It's not brutal recoil,  but shoot 50 full power and then pick up the M&P9.  That will feel like a .22


9.  Trigger is smooth, but a long and heavy pull.   

10.  Recoil is much lighter than a 10mm 1911.

11.  I have no use whatsoever for this gun, but it's way cool.  15+1 of a load that's a smidgen more than the top .357 magnum loadings is cool. 

Magazines are well made.

I'd buy it again.