Jesse James 180gr JHP

Started by RDub01, January 13 2019 06:07:38 AM MST

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RDub01

Found a few boxes of these at the local Sportsmans Warehouse..











Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture:  Jesse James
Muzzle Velocity; Advertised:   1270 fps
Actual Instrumental Velocity:   1104 fps
Muzzle Energy; Advertised:   645 ft/lbs



Brass Make/Head stamp:  JESSE JAMES 10mm AUTO
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info:  180gr JHP Anodized Bronze  .4008" dia.
Actual Weight:   180.8grs.



Crimp diameter:  .4220"
C.O.A.L.:   1.240"
Primer:  Nickel  Looks like a CCI350



Case:  Anodized Bronze;  73.1grs.



Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  Flattened Ball; AA #7?; 10.2grs.








Interesting ammo.. Didn't come anywhere near advertised velocity.











WHY DO THEY CALL IT COMMON SENSE WHEN IT IS SO UNCOMMON?

The_Shadow

#1
Very Interesting pull-down RDub, sad that they didn't meet their advertised velocity.  I originally thought the bullet was a ZERO brand product, but may be something else.

Quote"When putting my name on a box of Ammo I am only interested in three things. That it's the absolute highest quality, most accurate, and best value for the customer. Jesse James Ammunition is all three," said Jesse James. "I am so proud to be partnering with AMMO INCORPORATED®. The stars have truly aligned for a successful company. AMMO INCORPORATED® CEO Fred Wagenhals and myself have a partnership going back almost two decades. We both are focused and determined to create the best product possible. Also bring a new approach to the ammunition industry."
Jesse James

Who is Fred W. Wagenhals
Chairman & CEO, AMMO, Inc.
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Azrckcrawler

Quote from: The_Shadow on January 13 2019 07:59:40 AM MST
Very Interesting pull-down RDub, sad that they didn't meet their advertised velocity.  I originally thought the bullet was a ZERO brand product, but may be something else.


Appreciate the pulldown info but a 10 second search shows their numbers are based on a 5 inch barrel. I'd shoot the ammo thru something with a better quality barrel in the same length before disparaging the product.

Overkill338

Quote from: Azrckcrawler on January 13 2019 09:34:15 AM MST
Quote from: The_Shadow on January 13 2019 07:59:40 AM MST
Very Interesting pull-down RDub, sad that they didn't meet their advertised velocity.  I originally thought the bullet was a ZERO brand product, but may be something else.


Appreciate the pulldown info but a 10 second search shows their numbers are based on a 5 inch barrel. I'd shoot the ammo thru something with a better quality barrel in the same length before disparaging the product.

All 10mm loads are advertised with a 5" barrel. Underwood included. So that's nothing new.
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RDub01

Four tenths of an inch isn't going to account for 170 fps, no matter what barrel we're talking about.
This ammo is perfectly suited for the purpose intended.  No disparaging about the quality, just some overzealous advertising.  We run into this with many brands of ammunition.
WHY DO THEY CALL IT COMMON SENSE WHEN IT IS SO UNCOMMON?

Overkill338

Quote from: RDub01 on January 13 2019 02:56:09 PM MST
Four tenths of an inch isn't going to account for 170 fps, no matter what barrel we're talking about.
This ammo is perfectly suited for the purpose intended.  No disparaging about the quality, just some overzealous advertising.  We run into this with many brands of ammunition.

I agree 110% that's why I made the post about barrel length. Underwood rates their 180 at 1300 from a 5", yet a 4.6" Glock meets the advertised velocity and the 3.77" Glock 29 is within 65 fps.

You can't hide quality, or the lack thereof. Am I right ?"
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Azrckcrawler

Quote from: RDub01 on January 13 2019 06:07:38 AM MST

Interesting ammo.. Didn't come anywhere near advertised velocity.

Might seem nit picky but I responded when I saw this.  If I was producing ammo I'd be testing loads using a custom barrel at min SAAMI specs. Few off the shelf firearms will have barels that tight. Would be nice to see a test in a 5in match grade barrel or one of the new XDM's   :))