Burning 10mm ammo question

[Caneman]

^^^ i agree, reloading is at least half the fun of owning firearms 

[sqlbullet]

More than half if you start casting your own bullets!

[Caneman]

ya i wanna start casting bullets... is there a thread on here on how to do this?  you wanna start one?   

[The_Shadow]

You can't learn a lot from this site! http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Contents.htm

[RRMan03]

Personally I only shoot factory loadings and have found I really like the Buffalo Bore 155 X and the 220 HC. Both do exactly what I ask them to do. The lower power loads do not get the penetration of the above in the same test. I do not test for actual speed but for actual results on the same test just different ammo. I do occasionally try a different medium to shoot into just to see how the bullet would react if I had to use it in that situation. All my tests are for defensive or offensive situations with different mediums as my test. I just got to shoot my first Underwood ammo today.It was 180 FMJ advertised at 1300 and I will say for the money this is the best 10mm ammo made. Your getting full power loads for low power prices. Hope to find some more and stock up. At their price I see no one putting out any better power wise at a better price.

[Intercooler]

   I need to do more with Buffalo Bore. As for Buffalo Bore the 155's rated at 1500 FPS only did 1263 FPS in real life. That irks me on the advertising end. The 220's rated at 1200 FPS did 1100 FPS as well. Kevin has been saying he would release an all Copper which would hit his advertised. I know for a fact his other heavy ammos do from testing. Buffalo Bore is very expensive and their 180's use a Montana Gold. Supposedly it was loaded with a Gold Dot 180 at some point and a switcheroo was done without telling the customers. If I didn't have other options I would use it for sure but feel you can get equal or better for less dollars. Next time I find some 155's I plan on getting some for Chrony readings, tear-down and Chopinbloc to do his gel testing with them.

[4949shooter]

Buffalo Bore is too damn expensive.

[sqlbullet]

Buffalo Bore is too damn expensive.

This ^^

[Caneman]

You can't learn a lot from this site! http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Contents.htm

perfect, thanks shadow...

what brand size/type of mold do you use for your 10mm?

[The_Shadow]

In 10mm, I have several, the RCBS 200 & 175 grain Turncated Cone 2 cavity, which have a tiny bit of SWC design to it, this cuts clean holes in targets.
I also have the Lyman 175 TCBB 4 cavity and an obsolete 156 grain Devastator HP single cavity based off the 175 gr mold.

They all shoot well sized at 0.4015" from my guns.

But I also cast 309", 356", 358", 431" & 452" sized bullets also.  Some are gas checked types.

Many people are jumping in on group buys for the 10mm bullet mold over at CastBullets.com http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?8-Cast-Boolits

Good luck getting going, metals are more expensive these days.  But in years gone by wheel weights were a plenty, but thanks to government intervention, many are zinc these days.

[cwlongshot]

Buffalo Bore is too damn expensive.

This ^^

YUP...

Time to looking into reloading...

Loads tailored EXACTLY to your needs.

CW

[4949shooter]

Buffalo Bore is too damn expensive.

This ^^

It makes you wonder what their sales would be like if they lowered their prices to reasonable levels.

[sqlbullet]

I am not sure there prices are really that "unreasonable".

Montana Gold's pricing is offline right now, so I can't get pricing on their products.  I am gonna assume a volume buyer like Buffalo Bore can get them for around $0.12 each, or $120/K

Figuring their load at 10 grains of Longshot we have the following basic component costs per thousand:

Primers:  $35
Case:  $147
Bullet: $120
Powder: $23.8
Labor:  $15

Figuring a 10% overhead and 40% margin for the mfg, 30% for the distributor and 40% for the retailer, you land at $1502.65 per thousand, which is about where they are priced.

We are just really lucky to have guys like Underwood who cut all the middle men out and sell direct to us for a 15% margin after overhead and labor.

[4949shooter]

I'm not saying it's unreasonable as far as cost of manufacturing goes. I'm saying it's unreasonable as far as my wallet is concerned.

There is quality ammo out there that is more affordable to penny pinchers like myself. And it isn't like just buying a box or two, either. I would have to buy 100 rounds just to test it in my gun for function, then I would have to buy more on top of that for carry.

If I was still single and had money I wouldn't mind acquiring a stache of Buffalo Bore.

[Intercooler]

Awww pony up and help out Tim Sundles