XDM 10mm

Ramjet · November 13 2018 07:58:39 PM MST

I own a model 40,20,26 and several 1911 10mm. a

So I added the XDm 10mm

Few observations;

Longest darn trigger pull of any semi auto I own. Once I settled down and took up the free travel I was far more comfortable with the predictability of the break of the trigger. That said on defensive handgun it will work just fine for that purpose.

Recoil it is snappy much more snappy than any other 10 I own including the Ruger Wiley Clapp revolver. Light the bullet the better it felt. the 220 grain cast really snapped.

It's a keeper ........ hey it's a 10 what else can I say... ${$default_grin_smiley}$

mr.revolverguy · November 21 2018 05:22:53 AM MST

Ramjet how is the trigger slap? I got one fired 10 rounds and thinking about sending it back to SA. I am calling it trigger slap but it feels like trigger slap or vibrations or something in the trigger it hurts like hell. Having said that this is the first polymer pistol I have ever owned but I know they all do not shoot like this. It was accurate and very reliable the dang trigger just hurts. I was doing some research and most just call it trigger slap and it seems at one time SA had an issue with that. There are after market triggers and from reading that really is the only way to fix it. Sending it back to SA helps some it seems but only after market totally solves it.

HELP ME please as of right now I have sworn off owning any additional polymer pistols ${$default_evil_smiley}$

mt10mm · November 21 2018 08:08:14 AM MST

I had problems with "trigger slap" yrs ago when I started shooting Glocks. When I did some research on the problem I was having I came up with this;

If you "ride the reset" on a Glock trigger or XD you may get what you describe as "trigger slap". This is more about training with a proper reset and being accustomed to trigger mechanics than any play in the trigger. IE if you aren't used to the reset, you could slap the trigger. I still get this from time to time with my G29.

You may have a true trigger issue but this is what happened to me after shooting and carrying only revolvers and single action Rugers and moving over to the striker fired world of handguns.

Azrckcrawler · November 21 2018 08:56:57 AM MST

Quote from: mr.revolverguy on November 21 2018 05:22:53 AM MST
Ramjet how is the trigger slap? I got one fired 10 rounds and thinking about sending it back to SA. I am calling it trigger slap but it feels like trigger slap or vibrations or something in the trigger it hurts like hell. Having said that this is the first polymer pistol I have ever owned but I know they all do not shoot like this. It was accurate and very reliable the dang trigger just hurts. I was doing some research and most just call it trigger slap and it seems at one time SA had an issue with that. There are after market triggers and from reading that really is the only way to fix it. Sending it back to SA helps some it seems but only after market totally solves it.

HELP ME please as of right now I have sworn off owning any additional polymer pistols ${$default_evil_smiley}$

I have experienced what you are describing on other firearms but neither Springfield I have has any trigger slap. At the top end of the load spectrum my 460 Rowland conversion digs into the web of your hand pretty good but that is the price of 1000ft/lbs of energy ${$default_grin_smiley}$ Shooting my 10mm today, hopefully Chrono some existing loads to see how it compares with some of my other 10mm's.

mr.revolverguy · November 21 2018 11:55:03 AM MST

Thank you for the feedback but there is no way in heck that it is something I am doing with how painful this is. I mean literally can't make it through one magazine. I do not own but I have shot plenty of glocks and have not had this issue. I can't believe trigger reset would cause this sort of pain and bruising, some reports have said there is a bur in the trigger safety and I need to take it down and sand it out. Anyone else heard of that. I will look later.

mt10mm · November 21 2018 12:38:34 PM MST

please keep us posted!

Quote from: mr.revolverguy on November 21 2018 11:55:03 AM MST
Thank you for the feedback but there is no way in heck that it is something I am doing with how painful this is. I mean literally can't make it through one magazine. I do not own but I have shot plenty of glocks and have not had this issue. I can't believe trigger reset would cause this sort of pain and bruising, some reports have said there is a bur in the trigger safety and I need to take it down and sand it out. Anyone else heard of that. I will look later.

Ten2six · November 21 2018 04:26:44 PM MST

I finally got to take mine out today, it ran flawlessly. I tried several variations of trigger resets after seeing the above post and had no issues. I absolutely love the way the XD performs. From factory range loads to full power hand loads it managed recoil remarkably well. It even ran well with a box of aluminum blazers that I had been waiting to burn up.

jtracy1223 · November 21 2018 04:55:46 PM MST

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. My new xdm 10mm 4.5" slapped the heck out of my trigger finger the first time i took it out. To the point that the pad of my finger felt like it got wacked with something. Only other gun i have felt that kind of trigger slap with was an old Romanian ak-47. I was shooting 180 gr xtp with a book max load of aa#9. All that being said my next 2 times to the range i did not find the trigger slap was not near as bad but it was still there. Im interested in the idea about "riding the reset" i have been shooting for years but could not say for sure that the combination of my technique and this particular gun could not be causing the problem. On the other hand it would be nice to know if other people have been having this problem. As new as the xdm 10mm is there may still be some bugs to work out. I plan to install a trigger kit from powder river soon anyway but for peace of mind i would like to get this figured out before i change the trigger.

sqlbullet · November 22 2018 10:02:22 AM MST

I am curious.

Those of you with an XD having this issue...If you dry fire the gun, and while keeping the trigger depressed cycle the slide, does the trigger push forward against your finger as the disconnector does it's thing?

mr.revolverguy · November 22 2018 10:09:09 AM MST

I just tried mine and it does not. What I did notcie while dry firing is that I can feel every vibration and reset. But this vibration can't be causing that sort of pain can it?

Bruno747 · November 23 2018 09:38:04 PM MST

Another 200 rounds of 180gr berrys plated over 9.7gr of blue dot without a single malfunction.

Took my beowulf to the range in the same trip and the ROs were all giddy over getting to shoot it as well.

Ramjet · November 25 2018 07:59:36 AM MST

Quote from: mr.revolverguy on November 21 2018 05:22:53 AM MST
Ramjet how is the trigger slap? I got one fired 10 rounds and thinking about sending it back to SA. I am calling it trigger slap but it feels like trigger slap or vibrations or something in the trigger it hurts like hell. Having said that this is the first polymer pistol I have ever owned but I know they all do not shoot like this. It was accurate and very reliable the dang trigger just hurts. I was doing some research and most just call it trigger slap and it seems at one time SA had an issue with that. There are after market triggers and from reading that really is the only way to fix it. Sending it back to SA helps some it seems but only after market totally solves it.

HELP ME please as of right now I have sworn off owning any additional polymer pistols ${$default_evil_smiley}$

Absolutely know what you are saying. Few observations now that I have couple hundred rounds through this gun.

1.) Recoil impulse is sharp even with the 5.25" XDm hotter the loads guess what ${$default_grin_smiley}$ Paractice will reduce this some.
2.) Trigger is self defense trigger long travel but clean break after take up. but in defensive situation who will even worry about the loooong take up? But you better practice that way or you will pull your shots to the left.
3.) This gun just begs for 200 Grain medium velocity loads. More than 40 less than full house 10mm.
4.) It seems to like the low weight projectiles as my Ruger revolver does as well.
5.) The gun is light weight and I absolutely love the grip and the geometry of the grip fits me perfect.
6.) Relieable it as reliable as they come not one FTF and I hav run every thing through it.
7.) Capacity my goodness it's got capacity carry 3 mags you have allot of firepower. ${$default_shocked_smiley}$
8.) Accuracy is good for a defensive pistol but not as accurate as my 1911'or model 40 MOS. That said; I have not this one as much as the other either so practice and familiarity are key to accuracy with some guns.

will965 · November 25 2018 12:31:41 PM MST

i agree , nice eval Ramjet...I have been looking at the powder river triggers for a little upgrade. Im not crazy about the trigger. I have never replaced a factory handgun trigger but what the hell...gonna do some more shooting this weekend and decide.

jtracy1223 · November 25 2018 01:54:09 PM MST

Went back out and put another 100 rounds of full power reloads threw her and didnt notice any trigger slap at all this time. So i guess either the trigger or the trigger finger found their groove. Put in my order for an ultimate match trigger from powder river anyway. Powder river is doing a black friday sale for 15% off so i couldn't resist. Think the sale goes for a week or more so if anyone is wanting to upgrade your trigger now is the time. The promo code is BF15 . I have the prp easy fit in my xd9 service and it is a night and day difference. I don't hate xd/xdm factory triggers but the powder river triggers are exceptional.

mr.revolverguy · November 25 2018 04:00:42 PM MST

Ramjet,

Are you saying you are not having the same trigger issue?