Pass-Thru Sizing using LEE FCD

Started by The_Shadow, January 14 2013 09:33:27 AM MST

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blastfact

I've been doing it just like RMM is doing it. Except I full length resize a 9mm brass with a spent primer in it. Use a .380/.32 as a pusher then I fill the 9mm brass with small split shot fishing weights and use a propane torch to melt the lead and top off as needed in the case and top it off with a cut off base from a 380. Makes a great pusher! I run this setup in my Lee single stages or my classic turret. I prefer Winchester 10mm Brass over *-*. :) The *-* seems to soft for my liking and the primer pockets seem to loosen up faster. While the Win cost twice as much and then there is our 10mm brass lose ratio. :( I load nuke after nuke in my win brass through my LW 5.25" barrel. >>>>> ( never have shot a round through my OEM Gen3 barrel junk chamber pos )

robocop10mm

I have a Magma Case Master.  Pass through sizing from base to mouth.  Case feeder simply slides back and forth to feed cases into place.  Carbide dies to iin 9mm, .40/10/.357 Sig/9 X 25 and .45 ACP.  I run everything through it before normal resizing/decapping.

Absolutely no issues after 3 years. 

gandog56

Quote from: robocop10mm on July 21 2013 09:43:57 PM MDT
I have a Magma Case Master.  Pass through sizing from base to mouth.  Case feeder simply slides back and forth to feed cases into place.  Carbide dies to iin 9mm, .40/10/.357 Sig/9 X 25 and .45 ACP.  I run everything through it before normal resizing/decapping.

Absolutely no issues after 3 years.

Ooooh, but them things are EXPENSIVE. The die alone is 56 bucks! A Lee FCD can be had for 12-15 bucks.
Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

robocop10mm

Well, I am almost embarssed to say I got my complete set up for $100.  Friends in need are friends indeed! 

The_Shadow

#49
Here is a video of the process of "Pass-Through Sizing"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XcUh9LgqGV0

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ShadeTreeVTX

I got mine today - four days late - it made it to 3 different post offices before getting to me - anyway decided to do my sons 40 short and weak - I told him he has to buy the dies for my dillon 650 - I'm not messing my 650 up - he hasn't - I got a lee 4 die set to do hand loads with so I set up FCD and went to town on his 40's - got into a rhythm and no one- said to watch out for the fingers -OUCH!!!! ooooowell live and learn - now the 10's where long enough to get my fingers out in time and in about 2 hours did almost 900 rounds- Did 200 of his rounds that I already had sized and primed and belled - it was nice of them to put that hole in the center to miss the primer - and if I had not re-sized them with the with the FCD he would have had a lot of problems feeding them in his M&P40 ----SO as Shadow and the others have stated its worth the little bit of time and not that much money to be safe and not sorry.!
25 to 30 dollars well worth it!

Doug
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The_Shadow

Doug seems to be another satisfied victim of the "Pass-Through" system!   8)  How was the feel for the brass as it passed up and through the carbide ring?  Where some showing the need for extra leverage to get them up and through the die? ???
Even the rim section is pressed to a uniformed round diameter...this is why It seems to tighten up the primer pockets a little. ::)
That setup will also recondition the lower sections of 357Sig brass and 9x25Dillon because they all share the same 0.4220"-0.4230" case diameter.
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ShadeTreeVTX

Most of the 40 brass my son picked up (1200 to1400 rounds )was suppose to Once fired - not - but the price was right. About 3/4 of the about 400 rounds of brass I sized was Glocked brass.
The Glocked brass needed extra effort, the rest almost fell through. another 1000 rds to go. I already figured out a way to keep from pinching my fingers, and if I had access to a lath I make one - alas no access. I can see more pinched fingers ahead, d*m short and weak shells.

Doug 
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The_Shadow

What are you using as the pushpin to shove the brass up into the base of the die?  ???  Some have used a casing with a steel rod inside as the push pin, adjusting its length for their setup.
The pin I use, is from a LEE 10mm bullet sizer kit!  This pin is very flat across the top and the brass sits nice on top.

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Marc


ShadeTreeVTX

Mines the same Shadow - except it has a hole a little larger than a primer in the center, Works for me!  Must be something new?

Doug
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DenStinett

Quote from: ShadeTreeVTX on January 19 2014 06:19:04 PM MST
Mines the same Shadow - except it has a hole a little larger than a primer in the center, Works for me!  Must be something new?

Doug

Sounds like the one I have too
So tell me again how Trump was worse then the 8 years before .... AND what came after HIM !

gandog56

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Quote from: The_Shadow on January 14 2014 04:10:31 PM MST
Doug seems to be another satisfied victim of the "Pass-Through" system!   8)  How was the feel for the brass as it passed up and through the carbide ring?  Where some showing the need for extra leverage to get them up and through the die? ???
Even the rim section is pressed to a uniformed round diameter...this is why It seems to tighten up the primer pockets a little. ::)
That setup will also recondition the lower sections of 357Sig brass and 9x25Dillon because they all share the same 0.4220"-0.4230" case diameter.

Yeah, I get a lot of my brass through trades. I can almost tell for certain if the things were shot by Glocks by how much resistance they have when resizing, don't even have to look for the "smilies" (Though I do AFTER I resize them to make sure they pass inspection). Yeah my 40 caliber Lee FCD takes care of my .40 cal, 10mm, and 357 SIG cases. (I don't have any 9X25 pistol) Plus the Bulge buster kit means I can do in .380 ACP, .45 ACP, any rimless case, as long as I have the carbide FCD die for that round. Which if Lee makes one, I do.

Reminds me of making a trade with a guy who worked at a police training range and I scarfed up like 1000 10mm cases from him.
Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

Species

Quote from: RMM on June 19 2013 07:59:43 AM MDT
As many of you may have noticed I like to tinker a lot, I also like to save money!  Let me introduce the "ghetto" bulge buster.  :P

You can even use it without removing the powder measure! (thanks to the nicely shaped "catch can")
You can also use the 10mm shell holder.

What you need:
1.  Lee FCD
2.  Spent 9mm case
3.  Empty water bottle
4.  Electric tape
5.  About five minutes

Instructions:
1.  Cut bottom off of water bottle
2.  ***Optional*** line water bottle mouth with one layer of electric tape (provides snug fit on FCD)
2.  Grind/file 9mm case down to approximately *.*" (works better than using a full-length case)
4.  Remove crimping "guts" from FCD
5.  Adjust for proper leverage (closest to the top of stroke provides best leverage)
6.  Enjoy!   ***DO NOT USE ON "SMILED" BRASS***  (You may end up looking like this  :-\ )

What is the length you cut the 9mm casing to use as your pusher?  Going to craft a ghetto setup this weekend. Thanks for the tip!

scubadds

thanks all for sharing
I assumed my Dillon full length carbide dies would take care of the bulge? Seated all the way to the shellplate....
I am just gearing up to reload 10mm, and have not gotten my bucket of range brass in my hands to inspect yet...