Reed’s Ammunition& Research 200 grain WFNGC (provided by IC 8/2018)

[The_Shadow]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Reed's Ammunition& Research  200 grain WFNGC (provided by IC 8/2018)
Ballistics Information: 10mm Auto
Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps 
Muzzle Energy: 639 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6400"/Dia. 0.4000": 200 grain WNFGC
Actual weigh 200.4 grains      Crimp Diameter 0.4000"
MEPLAT 0.3000" (some alloy rolled up on the case mouth as crimp was applied pushed above the cannelure)
C.O.A.L.: 1.2560"
Primer: Large Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.4220" Crimp Diameter 0.4155" (medium) Length 0.9875"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Power Pistol  8.4 grains











"Hard-cast" bullet BNH ??  one lube groove (with red lube)  with copper gas check

[Troll_Toes]

I am wondering is that same powder Power Pistol I can buy off the shelf

[Trapper6L]

I am wondering is that same powder Power Pistol I can buy off the shelf

More than likely, no. Most commercial reloaders buy in sufficient volumes that canister powder is just too expensive. Non-canister powders are adjusted per lot or run to achieve the desired results. Same as the military does with their powders. Each time they get a new batch in, it's tested for pressure results usually with a piezo unit and checked with a chronograph. The loads are trimmed according to the desired results.

[The_Shadow]

Trapper, these are definitely Power Pistol powder...the only thing is that those commercial loaders that load plenty purchase there powders by the drum.  They need to be an approved container for shipment following hazmat regulations...

Here is an example of Maxam Powder CSB5 in the cardboard drum.  If I recall they are 35 lbs or 42 lbs and can be palletized like the last shown.
Based on the 25 KG weight that would be 55 lbs


These can only be shipped by truck


https://www.ammoland.com/2010/12/smokeless-gun-powder-pallet-sale/#axzz5ZEFlvsFj

[Trapper6L]

Considering I've bought numerous drums over the years, I know how they come and how the powder is packaged. As a club, we always bought drums, then broke it up into smaller volumes for the club members that bought into the purchase. The drums when empty make great storage containers too.  But to quote a bud that is a small time reloader, "I can't buy canister powder and make any money". The cost differential means a commercial reloader is either trading or losing money, or he's buying non-canister powder which is not exactly the same as canister and has a much wider variance between run numbers which requires trimming of the powder charge. If Reeds is actually using canister powder, they won't be around long.

[Taterhead]

Thanks for the nice write-up Shadow.

If my pulled cast bullets looked like the Reed's ammo, I'd make some adjustments. That bullet is experiencing some trauma and swaging in the seating and crimping operations. I would expect that bullet to lead the barrel. Might need a larger expander plug and a bit less crimp.

[The_Shadow]

Taterhead it does look like the bullet actually was still in motion downward as the crimp took place.  I think there was a shallow cannelure there on the bullet.
However that seating and crimping appears to have been in the same step, causing the bullet to shave on the closing casing mouth as it encountered the crimp section of the die.