Going to have a another 10?

Started by Glen72, January 06 2013 09:18:09 AM MST

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Glen72

So i'm going to open the can. I have a Glock 20 now. Going to add another to the group I take to the range. I shoot several different pistols now and I like shooting revolvers because I don't have to chase the brass. I'm fat and getting older, didn't think I would ever get the maintenance crack? Of course I never thought I wouldn't be the most studliest man in the room?
I have a $1k budget so I have some options.
Just a guy with his name on his shirt looking for a little input from other 10 MM shooters.

Have a great year!!!

Intercooler

Steel (you already have the plastic version)... revolver or Semi? Single or double...? 


Now is a horrible time to buy any firearm unless you smoke out a really good deal. Possibly a 1006 or the new RIA. An EAA piece or convert something.

sqlbullet

On a $1K budget, I would look to a new Kimber or a used S&W 10XX series gun.  I am partial to either the 1006 or the 1076.

The_Shadow

Glen72, Welcome to the forum!  The additiction to the 10mm is very real!  Don't ask me how I know, I just Know!!!
There are two revolver options (S&W 610 / 310 and Ruger BH) but they may be hard to find and just outside your budget, especially given this current market vs. the possibility of the all out assault & bans on the firearms and the industry by our Government Gone Wild!

You could keep your eyes pealed for the S&W1006 or other 10xx series models
Smith & Wesson 10mm pistols
1006 - 26,979 units produced 1990-93
1076 - 13,805 units produced 1990-93
1066 - 5,067 units produced 1990-92
1026 - 3,135 units produced 1990-91
1086 - 1,660 units produced 1990-92
1046 - 151 units produced 1991 (very rare)

S&W 1006- 5.00" barrel, slide mounted safety/decocker traditional double action
S&W 1066- 4.25" barrel, slide mounted safety/decocker traditional double action
The hammer on the 1006 has the full tang, the 1066 is bobbed.
The 1006 and 1066 do have the slide mounted decocker/safety on both sides of the slide.  Safety/Decocker if placed in safe mode allows the hammer to be dropped safely to the blocking bar so it can not hit the firing pin.  With the Safety/Decocker in fire mode, pulling the trigger will cock and fire the pistol.  The pistol can be carried with the Safety/Decocker in the fire position with the hammer un-cocked and the trigger will cock the hammer and fire the pistol Double Action. After the gun is fired, it is fully recocked and the gun is fired single action till empty or decocked.  You can carry the pistol cocked and locked with the Safety/Decocker in fire position, then the "ONLY SAFETY IS THE TRIGGER" Single Action!  Some models can be fired without the magazine present if the magazine disconnect is removed.

NOTE for comparison
S&W 1026- 5.00" barrel, frame mounted decocker traditional double action
S&W 1076- 4.25" barrel, frame mounted decocker traditional double action
These can be decocked by pushing down on the frame mounted decocking lever, the hammer is dropped to a half or partially cocked position and pulling the trigger will cock and fire the pistol.  After the gun is fired it is fully recocked and the gun is fired single action till empty or decocked.  The hammer when dry fired will be all the way down but pulling the trigger will cock and fire the gun.  Some models can be fired without the magazine present if the magazine disconnect is removed.  FBI models worked this way..

S&W 1046- 5.00" barrel double action only,
S&W 1086- 4.25" barrel double action only, this pistol has to be partially cocked to be able to double action. By that I mean when you rack the slide to chamber a round the hammer remains partially cocked, there is NO DECOCKING FEATURE! Also the 1086 if you have a failure to fire you can not cock the hammer by squeezing the trigger a second time to fire.  No Second Strike Capability. You would have to eject the round or move the slide rearward some to re-set the action to have the trigger cock the double action hammer again.  Some models can be fired without the magazine present if the magazine disconnect is removed. Notice the tang looks smaller because the slide is longer in the rear, to cover the cocked hammer therefore the tang/beaver tail of the 1046/1086 looks shorter than the 1006/1066, 1026/1076.
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Glen72

I'm in no hurry, I go to a lot gun shows.
Thanks

s0nspark

To chime in with a related question..

Are there any non-obvious advantages or disadvantages to choosing one of the Smiths over a 1911-patterned pistol? Reliability? Serviceability? Ammo finickiness?
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sqlbullet

Quote from: s0nspark on January 08 2013 06:13:35 AM MST
To chime in with a related question..

Are there any non-obvious advantages or disadvantages to choosing one of the Smiths over a 1911-patterned pistol? Reliability? Serviceability? Ammo finickiness?

Strength.

Don't get me wrong, I love a 10mm 1911 and have two.  But the basic 1911 platform was designed to operate with a 45 ACP at 21,000 PSI or a 38 super at 36,500 psi.  If you extract those numbers to actual breech force by calculating the pressure surface of the two cartridges, they work out pretty close to each other.

The 10mm at 37,500 PSI on the other hand is 30% more actual force on the locked breech. The end result is a shorter service life of slides in 10mm 1911's than 45 acp or 38 super.

Now, that service life is still orders of magnitude more that most shooters will every shoot their guns.

But, if you want a tank you can run 250,000 rounds of full power Underwood ammo through without any hiccups, a Smith 10XX series is a good bet.