possible issues with the Sig P365

[Kenk]

Anyone know anything about this possible issue with the Sig P365? It looks like there are concerns regarding firing pin breakage caused from Firing pin drag / primer smear....Thoughts

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BYCCQjx0M8M

Ken

[CurtisM]

The Military Arms Channel on Youtube had a video on the firing pin issue recently, don't have the link.

Edit;  Didn't see the link in your post, you have the one I was talking about.

[Chefgerg]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYCCQjx0M8M&app=desktop

[Graybeard]

Sounds like Sig has a variety of bugs to work out of this one. I, like the reviewer, have no problem with MIM parts done correctly. That said, a MIM striker just sounds like a horrible idea. The strange wear screams poor machining and QC.

I really wanted to like these and possibly buy one. Looks like that's at least a year down the road. It's a shame that Sig's reputation for making high quality, well built machines has taken a bit of a beating in the last few years. The GSG guns rebranded as Sigs, the 320, and now the 365 issues make me think some folks at Sig should seek other employment.

Developing a reputation where their higher end guns are fine and economy line guns are a crapshoot is a poor business model.

[Bunny]

It is a little disconcerting to hear of the issues, I have a dozen Sigs (all high end with the exception of the mosquito) and I have only had issues with the mosquito (which I found out is not even made by sig.)  I suppose MIM parts have their use but a firing pin seams silly (and people are paying $100 for a steel replacement.)  You are right Graybeard, the business model is severely lacking.

[Graybeard]

Not positive this early in the morning but I believe the mosquito is a GSG rebrand. I had a Sig 1911-22 (GSG) blow up a few years ago. That was my "never again " moment when it comes to buying guns based on brand reputation.

[Kenk]

My hope is to address this with Sig's sales team / customer service, but will not likely get a response
Thanks folks

Ken

[Chefgerg]

they really pushed this gun out without due testing. I believe the reason was because of the bad press they got on the 320 drop firing. They needed a win and something to shake the industry thus the 365 was born. lets build a gun as cheap as we can for as much profit as we can then screw the people who buy it by not allowing them to ship them back for free repair and tell them it is user error. Sig has made some very high quality guns in the past, now they make turds that they can get premium prices for and tell their customers to suck it.

[Kenk]

My hope is that they become aware / correct the issue in short order. As with most manufacturers, when sales fall off, shareholders take notice and demand results; this being especially true in the firearm industry...Not to mention, I want one, one that lives up to the manufacturers reputation.
Thanks

Ken

[Pablo]

My experience with Sig in the past is they will make it right. So far 4 guys I know have P365's and no issues, I know for a fact they have shot the heck out of them.

Is this a dry fire issue? What exactly is breaking?

[Rojo27]

Just something about MAC when he gets on these crusades; his histrionic, hammy theatrics swiftly wear thin for me. 
Lots of noise & grumbling on the boards lately concerning new Sig 365 firing pin.  Congratulations to MAC, he just found additional supporting evidence there is something wierd going on with the 365's firing pin, then he broke a trigger on the 997th test fire. . There just saved you 30 minutes of life you don't get back. 

Agreed, Sig needs to get their stuff together.  These new self inflicted PR wounds with product launches are damaging their brand. 

Now with that said, lots of manufacturers (firearm and others) have fumbled new or enhanced product launches right out of the gate.  Very sound reason in my view not to be front of the line to try out a new product which might at some point be relied upon to save your life. I prefer to wait a couple of years and let manufactures use somebody else's $$ to work the bugs out. 

[Chefgerg]

firing pins are breaking anywhere between 20 to 500+ rounds seem to be the most numerous problem, Trigger issues, Barrel issues are also being reported.

[Kenk]

Yep, hate to hold off, but I will, this may be an isolated issue, but is not looking that way. Hope they  get it together soon, looks like a dandy subcompact

[Graybeard]

I'm waiting for the responses that tell me SIG is using it's customers to beta test the 365. How many products were ever produced perfectly the first time, never improved, or updated?

I don't think most of us here really think Sig is using it's customers as a test base for an untested gun. Besides being beyond stupid it's a great way to lose customers in droves.

I really happy that your P365 is meeting or exceeding your expectations and as most of the posters above indicate, we'd like one that works, too. Just not quite ready to make the purchase when a variety of problems rears up. With all due respect to Phil Strader, if primer drag is normal and part of the design, an MIM striker is a stupid idea. Sig isn't alone in the poor execution category, think R51. Really wanted those to work out and wouldn't touch one now.

The issues with the abnormal barrel wear and the solution of adding barrel cuts doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy either. It sounds to me like they're abandoning machining tolerances and making things a little sloppier and I hate that they are doing that. I really like the idea of a quality brand that you can almost trust absolutely. I hate the idea that steel Sigs will be considered and expected to be high quality and polymer Sigs will be looked at like Kel-Tecs.

Thank you for letting us know how well yours is working. I haven't written a P365 off yet as a future purchase. I will wait awhile and see how this all shakes out. Sig has gotten my money once already when they decided to go cheap. A second time would make me the stupid one.

(Sorry to any Kel-Tec fans out there. In fairness, you have to know Kel-Tecs are hit and miss at best.)

[Kenk]

Hey Folks,
Yes, I really want one of these, just a matter of how long I can hold off I guess