Brand new Sprg. Operator 10mm--FAIL --Accuracy still poor

[50BMG]

I had an old 4" Springfield Champion model 1911 that did something similar to this when I fit a new barrel bushing to it and initially, it was a bit too tight...
More break-in time wouldn't hurt...
look at it this way, now you have an excuse to go shooting again...

[Mike D]

I'm tuning in for this because a 6" model is one I have been considering.


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[Univibe]

Third range trip.   Fail, fail fail.   Buying any new firearm is like buying a lottery ticket.  I'll see if Springfield will take it back.   Maybe they can make it run.   

[Graybeard]

Well, it sounds like you did your due diligence regarding break in. Please keep us updated on how Springfield treats you. I'm sure you spent some decent coin on this gun. You deserve one that works.

[sqlbullet]

Sad to hear that at a premium price like these the gun didn't work.  Eager to hear what Springfield does.

[Univibe]

Today Sprg. sent me a prepaid shipping label, and they're paying for insurance as well.   I'll sent it out tomorrow.    We'll see what happens.

[Rojo27]

Such a bummer!  Regardless of the manufacturer or product, it happens (some much more often than others).  None the less, it still sucks. 
I sincerely hope Springfield fixes the issue or makes it right for you!

[Univibe]

Gun came back today.   They did two things:   they polished the feed ramp to a mirror finish, and they polished the underside of the slide where it contacts the round in the magazine.

Just looking at it, this doesn't appear to address the problem I had.   I didn't have feed ramp jams at all;  I had failure to fully go into battery.   

On the other hand, the gun shows evidence of much test firing, not just a few rounds and call it a job.

So we'll go to the range next week, and see what happens.  I don't depend on it for personal protection (no bears in the big city;  nine is fine) but I would prefer that it be reliable.

[Azrckcrawler]

Anything that causes drag from the moment the slide starts going back would be fair game to improve on.  You'd be amazed how a little polishing can help mechanical components slide better against each other.

Gun came back today.   They did two things:   they polished the feed ramp to a mirror finish, and they polished the underside of the slide where it contacts the round in the magazine.

Just looking at it, this doesn't appear to address the problem I had.   I didn't have feed ramp jams at all;  I had failure to fully go into battery.   

On the other hand, the gun shows evidence of much test firing, not just a few rounds and call it a job.

So we'll go to the range next week, and see what happens.  I don't depend on it for personal protection (no bears in the big city;  nine is fine) but I would prefer that it be reliable.

[Univibe]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.   In particular the cusp where the feed ramp angles over into the chamber looks just a tiny bit radiused.   Not enough to mess with the fully-supported aspect of the chamber, but enough to smooth it out a bit.     And polishing the bottom of the slide will help it glide over the next round which, after all, is held against the bottom of the slide with considerable mag spring pressure.   I'll take it to the range and wring it out. 

[Univibe]

Executive Summary:  it works.

Got it back from Sprg.  with a note that said they'd polished the underside of the slide, and polished the feed ramp.  The gun showed evidence of much test firing.

I cleaned it thoroughly and oiled it up with CLP.

I fired about 50 rounds (180 grain Hornady FMJ-FP, 13.0 grains AA9, Starline brass) and it worked flawlessly.     I'll take it out and shoot some more, but I think it's fixed.

All was done at no charge, and Springfield sprang for the shipping both ways.

[sqlbullet]

Just wondering if you would be willing to post pics of the the area's they polished.  I know I would be interested in seeing how much shine they put on those areas.

[Univibe]

Just wondering if you would be willing to post pics of the the area's they polished.  I know I would be interested in seeing how much shine they put on those areas.

Sure, if I can figure out how to post a picture.

The underside of the slide was smoothed out to a satiny finish.  The feed ramp looks like a curved mirror and will dazzle your eye if it catches the light.   

Whatever they did, it did the trick, at least for the 50 rounds I have shot it so far.

[gandog56]

When I first started out in 10mm, my choices were so few. Now it seems EVERYBODY is coming out with a new 10mm and I'm loving it. I think my total is now 7 10mm's including two carbines and a revolver. It's just wonderful, but I kind of wonder why the 10mm lay so dormant for a long time. When I first got one, there was like Glock, Colt Delta if you could find one, Dan Wesson made the Razorback and the Pointman (The Razorback was my first 10mm), and a used Bren 10 was scarcer than hen's teeth, and the magazines for one even rarer. Nobody made a carbine in 10mm at that time.

[Univibe]

Now that I've shot this gun several times, with both factory ammo and various handloads, I am not impressed with accuracy.   Seven yard groups look like buckshot patterns as big as a coffee saucer.  For what these cost, it should be much better.