Best powder to reload the 10mm auto

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I guess I could ask this question here also; who makes the best 10mm competition pistol?  I have enough $$$ to buy the best if I can identify it.  For competition it sure isn't the Glock 40.

For a Limited pistol, hands down SV 2011.  (Total custom build to your specs)
For a Single Stack gun, Dan Wesson http://danwessonfirearms.com/product/razorback-rz-10/

Jeff

[Magnumdood]

Thank you again gentlemen.  I will explore the other options you've given me.

[sqlbullet]

I completely agree that a no-holds-barred build would be SVI for me.  And if I had any kind of budget, Tanfoglio.

But...

I gotta question why.  A no-holds-barred competition build is for winning competitions, and to be honest has evolved to where it is not great for other purposes.  And given the rules and power factor requirements of competition, there is no advantage to 10mm Auto and there IS a recoil penalty which will result in slower times.

It would be cool. But I would not drop the money on an SVI competition build in 10mm.

[MyAlias789]

https://www.doublealpha.biz/uspsa-gear-report

Here's a survey of the 2016 nationals. Seems that the 180 gr Bullets were the most popular. Most of those guys are shooting .40 through SVI's.

I don't see why you couldn't just download 10mm for the gun games. The added cost would just be the price of brass. 1k 10mm starline brass is $162 w/ free shipping. 1k 40 cal starline brass is $154.50.

[Magnumdood]

I called STI today and only spoke with a secretary/receptionist.  She said they don't produce anything in 10mm anymore.  I probably need to talk to one of the gunsmiths.  Tangoflio has some interesting looking pistols that can come in 10mm.  I've never even held a Tangoflio firearm whereas I have shot several high end STI offerings, all in 9mm.  I compete to hone my personal skills.  I doubt I would have a full open pistol built, but am open to the limited class.  I just don't like the compensator on the end, although if any cartridge would benefit greatly from it it would be the 10mm.  I'm as competitive as the next guy, but I'm also 58 and don't harbor anyillusions that my sight or reflexes can even come close to the youngsters.  There's two 17 year olds who make it to all the local meets; they SMOKE everyone there.  Of course, local talent ain't all that talented when compared to nationally recognized shooters.

On the 10mm issue; I realize I am saddling myself with a disadvantage due to recoil.  I just really like the 10mm.

[sgmtino]

i have a witness match and a stock 2 in 10mm and they are the most comfortable double stack pistols I own

[Magnumdood]

Just to keep everyone who assisted me updated, I talked with a gunsmith at Tangoflio this morning and have gotten the ball rolling.  I picked a 2011 in 10mm with a 6" bull barrel and Trijicon red dot and a few other choices.  He's sending me an itemized list of the pistol build tomorrow.  I'm supposed to look it over and call him back to hammer out the rest of the details (add or subtract options).  Sounds like I'm gonna be a happy camper when this process is complete.  Any suggestions on compensators?  Hanging off the end?  Integral to the barrel and slide like the Glock 20C?

[Magnumdood]

My mistake...it wasn't Tangoflio, it was Fusion Arms.  The base Pistol I'm working from is the STI/SVI 2011.

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My mistake...it wasn't Tangoflio, it was Fusion Arms.  The base Pistol I'm working from is the STI/SVI 2011.

If you go SV, make sure you order the steel grip.  Well worth the money.

[Magnumdood]

I'm going with the SV for sure.  Fusion Arms is the only company I've found that will build me whatever I want...completely custom.  Now I've gotta be smart enough to ask for the right options.  I need to read all the rules and regulations for IDPA and USPSA to configure this pistol so that they'll let me compete even if I break a couple of rules.  Local matches are usually run pretty loosely; anyone who wants to shoot, can.  The bigger matches that attract shooters from across the country are sticklers for the rules.

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I have been an USPSA RO for going on twenty years.  Last 5-6 years I've been working the chrono stage for our western PA section, rather than chase shooters half my age around a stage.

If you have any rules questions, feel free to ask.

Jeff

[Magnumdood]

Thanks Jeff,

I shot a small local match last weekend and they let me use my Glock40 even though it has a Bar-Sto fitted barrel that protrudes from the slide far enough to allow 3 ports cut in the end of the barrel to clear the slide.  The guy who talked me into going is getting pretty in to it, and I'm sure I'l attend a larger shoot at some point.  At the small meet a couple of guys had STI full blown race guns shooting with limited pistols and even a few stock pistols.  There weren't enough shooters to break it up into classes. 

The question I have is how do I stay in the limited class?  Can I shoot 38 Super in limited?

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You can shoot almost any open sight, non ported/comped pistol, 9mm Luger (9X19, 9NATO, etc) and up. 
The difference is scoring.  Bore diameter .400 and up, (40 S&W, 10mm, 45 acp, 44 mag, etc) can be scored "Major caliber" as long as they make the minimum 165 power factor.  (Bullet weight X velocity divided by 1000)
Anything below .400 bore diameter is scored "Minor" power factor (125-164.9) even if they make major.

The scoring is:

Major : A= 5 points, C= 4 points, D= 2 points

Minor : A= 5 Points, C= 3 points, D= 1 point

If you git all A zone hits on the targets, it's irrelevant if you are shooting major or minor.  But it's the C and more importantly the D hits where it matters.  If your shooting major on a 100 point stage and score 15 A hits and 5 C hits your only down 5 points.  Shooting Minor your down 10, the equivalent of a miss.  And D Hits...that's where it really hurts.

I tell everyone just starting out to get a 9mm, (CZ, EAA, Glock, S&W, etc) some 140mm mag extensions, and shoot Limited minor. 

Why?  Several reasons.
Cost.  9mm is cheap so you can afford to practice more.
Your just learning, Your going to be at or near the bottom of the score sheet anyway so scoring Major/Minor is irrelevant.
Mag changes suck.
Shooting Minor forces you into an accuracy mindset.

And one more thing.  When your at the matches, ask those guys with the "full blown race guns" if you can check them out at the safety table.  Ask lots of questions, and be prepared to test fire those guns, cause 99.9% of USPSA shooters are very proud of their race guns and the little things they've done to them to personalize them...and they love showing them off.

After a season or so, you'll have a better idea of exactly what you want to do.  Weather it's building a race gun of your own, getting into another division, or staying where your at.

Sorry this is so long winded but I'm old, I tend to ramble.

Jeff

[Magnumdood]

...Sorry this is so long winded but I'm old, I tend to ramble.

Jeff

Not at all, Jeff, not at all.  Your "ramblings" contain a tremendous amount of information that will aid me in the configuration of my first limited pistol.

Than you very much for taking the time to respond wit such a well thought out post!

Thanks again,

Ralph