Where's the Springfield XD 10mm?

Started by Intercooler, March 26 2018 03:07:19 AM MDT

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Intercooler

 Pretty much!

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Ramjet

I really like my XDS 45 for EDC but frankly I would prefer a Walther PPQ M2 in 10MM for a full size plasti-cool 10. I shoot those darn PPQ better than any weapon I own in the handgun form.

MikeS.

The pistol I shoot best is the Springfield XD Subcompact in 9mm. I have no idea why. I'm a BIG guy, 6'5" and hands that fit that frame. But still the sub is where I'm at.

Being a huge 10mm guy I'd love to see an XD in it.

The_Shadow

My rant to Springfield:
QuoteWhere is that 10mm XD that so many have wanted?
https://www.facebook.com/SpringfieldArmoryUSA/posts/10155808566299425
Springfield sent this to me today...
QuoteIt's still in development Wade. Thank you for your interest in our products!
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
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PCFlorida

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Intercooler

  I'm just shocked! Someone with a little drive on YouTube creates his own and years into it Springfield can't develop it?  :o

PCFlorida

Quote from: Intercooler on April 13 2018 07:38:31 AM MDT
  I'm just shocked! Someone with a little drive on YouTube creates his own and years into it Springfield can't develop it?  :o
It is disappointing but not unexpected (to me).
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I have myself complained about 10mm versions costing more money.

But, that is a very real problem for Springfield with the XD.  None of the XD40 slides work on XD45 frames.  And while an XD45 slide might work in stock for for 10mm, there would be an increase in reliability issues.  So, they have tooling for a new slide.  They could use the same slide forging/castings as the XD45, but it would require new tooling for the breech face and for the extractor cuts.  Likewise, they have issues with tooling new barrels.

And then there are the testing processes, and dealing with the fact that the 10mm can produce 40% more energy than the most powerful round they currently chamber.  We all have dealt with guns that ran fine with Blazer 10mm loads, but not with Buffalo Bore or Underwood.  And vice versa.

And, all this R&D, tooling, and support costs is spread over a very small group of potential customers.  The 10mm TRP's are low hanging fruit.  The 1911 is a well established platform, there is no new tooling needed for the design.  It is just an off-the-shelf 1911 built buy a guy that knows how to fit a 10mm 1911.  And the price reflects the hand work that goes into it.

I would like to see a 10mm XD, but the reality is that is a hard cost model to make.

Sobrbiker

Not to be too off topic, but where's the CZ75 in 10mm? I know an EAA is a close clone, but why doesn't CZ make a real one?
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Bruno747

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Chuckled when I read this thread.

I still look back at the CEO's comments that the 10mm xdm was nearly done in February 2017 and just want to see someone slap him. Nearly done and over a year later they are still in development. I'm surprised Shadow got any response other than no news. If its still in development, it is probably a 2019 product at best at this point as it takes 6+ months to get a new handgun approved for import if I understand correctly.

Honestly best I can tell, all signs point to Springfield being Vltor 2.0 between the CEOs comments that haven't been backed up at all, that hs-produkt (who actually makes all the XD pistols) has said squat about 10mm, and the comments that Rob was sneaking in at shot show 2018 about how difficult it is to make 10mm reliable even in a 1911 platform.

I hope to see it but I am not holding my breath anymore just like the Sig p220 4.4" 10mm Sig said they were working on back before they released the 5" versions

Rick R

I don't think that SA can tempt the gnomes at the factory in Croatia with enough cookies to build a 10mm XD.     :D
The impression I got from dealing with SA as an LEO armorer was that the Croatian side of the equation was pretty Olde World  about making changes. 
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Intercooler

Well... Here we are almost mid-year and still vaporware!  :-X

Bruno747

Quote from: Intercooler on June 06 2018 05:20:11 PM MDT
Well... Here we are almost mid-year and still vaporware!  :-X

Vltor 2.0 I'm tellin ya!