What is THE hunting bullet for the 10mm?

Started by Firstcoueswas80, February 16 2018 06:51:25 PM MST

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Firstcoueswas80

I've got a model 40 with 6" KKM barrel. Animals from javelina up.

I was looking at either 180 or 200 XTP.


Thoughts?

Rojo27

Roll your own or commercial loads?

Lots and lots of threads here on this topic.
A quick synopsis would include both the XTP bulletes you mention as well as:
200gr or 220gr WFN hard cast bullets.... With large meplats
155gr Barnes TAC-XP
180gr Trophy Bonded JSP
180gr Gold Dot....  I'm super interested in trying out the 200gr Gold Dot
175gr Critical Duty
200gr Nosler JHP
180gr or 200gr RN TMJ or FMJ
Starting to hear stories about Lehigh Xtreme Penitrator & Defender (mostly loaded bu Underwood)





erdyalx

I have used the xtp a bunch. It works well. But after using hard cast bullets I never went back. The bullets are called on to do so many tasks. Some of them never expanded. So now I PC coat cast lead bullets and use them in all of my Glocks. They break bones and make holes. They are legal in Idaho.

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sqlbullet

for me....

200-205 grain WFN.

I want the nose as wide as will fit and feed reliably.

Load them to 1250+ fps from a 5" barrel.

Anything in the continental US will go down with that IF you put it in the right place.

Firstcoueswas80

I'll be rolling my own. Last week I killed a javelina with 155 xtp.

anthaynes96

In my limited experience, stay away from 180 grain xtp bullets. For some reason, they don't shoot as accurately as 155 or 200 do.

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Spudmeister

Model 40 ?  Do you mean a 10mm Glock 40?  Just want to be clear.

If so...  Welcome to a great gun with a great barrel.  Lot's of bullets work.  XTP's are always good.  A 6" KKM barrel will give you a nice velocity jump over the OEM barrel.  Personally I am a fan of the 200 gr WFN bullets from Montana Bullet co.  I suggest you try a variety and see what it shoots/feeds/functions the best. 

The_Shadow

Firstcoueswas80, if you are seeking load data, what powders do you have to work with?

I like the 200 grain XTP and 200 Grain Gold Dots at 1220- 1240 fps from the G-20 barrel and should be a little more from the 6" of the G-40.

The cast bullet will punch through most animals depending on how much dense bones are struck...
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Firstcoueswas80

Quote from: The_Shadow on February 17 2018 12:29:57 PM MST
Firstcoueswas80, if you are seeking load data, what powders do you have to work with?

I like the 200 grain XTP and 200 Grain Gold Dots at 1220- 1240 fps from the G-20 barrel and should be a little more from the 6" of the G-40.

The cast bullet will punch through most animals depending on how much dense bones are struck...

I've thought a lot about the gold dot, all research has lead me to believe the gold dot opens wider, there for limiting penetration. Which for most of the stuff I'll ever hunt won't be that big of a deal, I do like two holes in animals though.

A 200 xtp or gold dot at 1200+ would be amazing.

Mike D

Ive used the 200 XTP at 1250 and Underwood 220 hard cast at roughly the same velocity on Texas whitetail. Both have killed very effectively with the two that I have shot so far falling in almost the exact same distance from the shot.

That being given I'll lean toward the hard cast because of the bone breaking ability over the JHP bullets.


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Pumpkinheaver

I like the 180XTP at about 1200-1250 FPS for deer sized game.

sep

Another poster on this forum named nickE10mm once posted, the faster he drove the 200 XTP, the less it seemed to penetrate in deer. Sometimes the XTPs would not exit. Presumably, greater expansion at higher velocity reduced their penetration. As others have posted, hard cast bullets will generally completely penetrate leaving an exit wound which is beneficial for poking a hole through both lungs or breaking a shoulder and for tracking.

Marshall Stanton of Beartooth Bullets wrote an interesting article titled "Handgun Hunting Loads-A Critical View" which details the performance of hard cast at 1100 fps. The meplat of the bullet and velocity both play a role in wound diameter. The takeaway from his article is hard cast bullets will perform well even at lower velocity.

I load both 200 XTPs and 200 grain hard cast but for woods defense against bears, the hard cast are what I prefer to carry as you need lots of penetration to go through hide and bone. 

https://beartoothbullets.com/tech_notes/archive_tech_notes.htm/61       

Kenk

Underwood's 200gr XTP has worked well for Whitetail in MN

200gr XTP Ballistics Information:
* Muzzle Velocity:1250 fps
* Muzzle Energy: 694 ft. lbs.

Or you could move up to the UW 220gr hard cast flat nose

https://underwoodammo.com/product/handgun-ammo/10mm-auto-220-grain-hard-cast-flat-nose/

Kenk

Also took a Whitetail a few years back with Underwood's 180gr XTP, it's tough to beat Underwood for factory ammo

Rojo27

No doubt others have seen it before but happened to have noticed an interview done by Razor Dobbs some point last year.  He's probably harvested more animals with his 10mm than anyone else I'm personally aware of.  He's used the 10mm 155gr TACXP successfully on many whitetail deer, wild boars, an elk and even a mature nilgai bull and just raves about it's performance from 5" 1911. 

Course he's also taken two Cape Buffalo last year using his 10mm & DoubleTap 200gr WFNGC hardcast.