NICS - delay?

[Patriot]

Purchased another Witness Stock 2 and had it shipped to my local FFL. Went in to pick it up and got the NICS delay. Never had this happen. I purchased 5 guns over the last year with no problems.

[sqlbullet]

An NICS Delay means you have been non-conclusively associated with a prohibitive status for firearms ownership or transfer.  Most commonly it is due to similarity in name, DOB or other identifying characteristics.

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/nics/delayed-firearm-transaction

Once the delay response is given to the FFL, NICS has three business days to conclusively link you to the record in question.  Once three business days have passed, the FFL may proceed with the transfer, but are not required to proceed.

I had a friend who once experience a delay to deny response.  Upon investigation it was due to an arrest warrant for him.  The bench warrant had been issued on a failure to appear for a littering summons.  He smokes and was cited for a butt.  However, it was a clerical error.  The court clerk had applied his payment of the fine prior to the court date to the wrong docket number.  He called the court, provided them the cancelled check number and date, they found the error and cancelled the warrant and he got his gun.  A Witness 10mm in fact.

This sounds like a long process, but in reality he got the deny mid-day and picked up the gun after work, same day. 

In this regard a deny is really preferrable in my mind, because you know what to attack.  A delay just leaves you in Limbo until Friday.

I am sure it is nothing.  Good luck.

[dred]

Welcome to my world.  In 2017 I did the NICS check process 5 times at 2 different shops.  Of the 5 transfers, I was delayed (long enough to leave the shop) 2 times.  1 of the 2 delays never advanced to proceed.  The transfer following the hanging (no proceed) transfer resulted in an instantaneous proceed and the transfer that followed that one returned a proceed in under 30 minutes.

I may hold some of the blame because I experimented last year.  After experiencing a few delays in 2016, I heard that witholding my SS# would likely help me avoid being delayed.  It didn't make any sense to me and it didn't have the desired result. 

I seriously considered a UPIN (unique personal identificaiton number), but since my SS# is unique by statute - I'm very skeptical about paying for a second unique number that Feds can track me with.  My FFL tells me that UPINs did solve the problem for other customers that had problems with frequent delays.

Finally, according to my FFL, I am the only customer he sells to that has ever had an immediate proceed returned after getting even one delay notification without getting a UPIN. 

This all adds up to a horribly broken system.  It bothers me that I can get a delay days after a proceed at the same FFL.  In this modern era of computer searches - When I decide to make a purchase on a Sunday, why the heck can't they see that my SS# was cleared for a proceed on Saturday?

At any rate - in T minus 18 months I will move my Carry License back to Texas where I reside.  I'm in year three of no TX LTC due to Wreckless Driving and I'm carrying under an AZ Non Resident LTC until then.  I definitely miss the no hassle transfers.

[sqlbullet]

The UPIN works for the following reason.  Lots of agencies, both governmental and non-governmental, handle your SSN for reason not related to a gun transfer.

All it takes to jam you up is having some clerk mis-type a digit when putting in a SSN similar to yours to create a flag.  Then you have a SSN match/name mis-match. 

The UPIN is used ONLY for uniquely identifying you for NICS transfers.  The results is a court clerk can't jam you up in a typo, since they never enter the UPIN on their side.

[Patriot]

Still no word on this. Hoping he let's me pick it up on Monday after the 3 days expires.

[seaswol]

Just picked up a rifle and pistol.  NCIS took 4 minutes Pensacola, FL

[Patriot]

Just got the call to come pick it up. They sure take their time.

[Patriot]

The owner of the gun store told me that the NICS operator said that prior military now has to go through an extra step to verify their military discharge. This is in response to that church shooter that was discharged via court martial and shouldn't have been able to purchase a firearm. This is temporary until this discharge database is entirely updated. He said I should expect delays for the foreseeable future.