10mm pistol shoot-out article... Glock. Ruger, Witness, Sig

Started by Intercooler, January 10 2018 02:10:23 AM MST

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SPDSR

It's $1.43 less at Kygunco. But they have free shipping, so $26.43 less. Never shot one personally.

https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=48575

Soulezoo

Without trying to sound too picky or OCD, one factual error in the article listed an original Norma loading of 170 grains @ 1300 fps. I still have original Norma loads and it was 165 grains @ 1400 fps. The 200 grain listing is correct @ 1200 fps.

sqlbullet

Both are correct.

There was a 170 grain load listed at 1300 fps.

There was a 165 grain load listed at 1400 fps.

The Shadow (Wade) has done pull-downs on these plus the 200 grain JTC.

http://rangehot.com/original-10mm-ammo-made-ffv-norma-ab-%C2%B7s-670-40-amotfors-sweden/

4949shooter

These loads must have rocked the Colt Delta Elites of the day!  8)

14 GT-500

I don't know, I'm shooting reloaded 180s @ a little over 1300 fps with 800X and Underwood 180s @ 1350 fps in my Colt. And how do I know this? because I have a chrony  :-*

The Earl o Sammich

....and I'm shooting 165 grain Sierras at a tad over 1400 fps through my Colt.  It's the newer stainless.   Measured through a old Oehler 35p.  Coming up on 1000 rounds through it and it's doing fine.

4949shooter

Which is why I said, "of the day." The metallurgy used in the Colt pistols is much better now.

But you guys knew that of course.

14 GT-500

And how did you know I was putting them loads through a new Colt or the older version?

sparkyv

This is great information.  It helps us relatively new to 10mm.
sparkyv
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Spudmeister

Thank you for posting the article.  Like any published article the author has to come up with parameters of how to run the test/evaluation.  And then the readers have an endless list of.. "well... he shoulda done it this way".  I suppose if they did it exactly the way we wanted we'd come up with different complaints.  But I will take exception to using using one kind of ammo for each gun.  That instantly makes the results invalid save but for a single kind of ammo.  It leaves the reader with the impression the Ruger 10mm has a ftf problem.  But with only a single ammo type used the reader is left with no idea if the Ruger actually has a problem or if it was only with one kind of ammo.  In any case, I would 100% flunk any gun that did not run 100% with the intended carry ammo. 

4949shooter

Quote from: 14 GT-500 on February 02 2018 06:40:35 PM MST
And how did you know I was putting them loads through a new Colt or the older version?

I wasn't speaking about you. I was speaking about the old loads and the old guns.

The DE is a classic 10mm, which in my opinion saved the round from extinction. I plan on getting one in the future.

Pumpkinheaver

Quote from: 4949shooter on January 10 2018 05:35:21 AM MST
And why would they use a different specific ammo for each gun? Seems to me they should be testing all the guns with the same ammo.

I agree, using different loads was a mistake.