Yankee Marshall and IraqiVeteran8888 feud

Started by Intercooler, October 23 2017 05:54:11 PM MDT

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Intercooler

   Anyone been following along? I guess I missed the start of it all  ???


Overkill338

I can't stand Yankee's videos. He just curses unnecessarily because he thinks it makes the videos sound better or something. Definitely a man in love with his own voice.
Don't hate all of us Virginians. Not all of us voted for Ridiculous Ralph Blackface

Ridgerunner665

#2
I've only recently started watching a lot of IraqVeteran8888's videos... I like the guy, he truly enjoys what he's doing, or at least it appears so.

Yankee is an ass.

I miss tnoutdoors9 though, didn't realize how much I liked his videos until he was gone (hopefully not for good).


I'm never gonna care much for anybody that pushes their own opinion as much as Yankee does... I like YouTube videos to be at least somewhat based in fact and science.

Spudmeister

Quote from: Ridgerunner665 on October 23 2017 07:04:13 PM MDT
I've only recently started watching a lot of IraqVeteran8888's videos... I like the guy, he truly enjoys what he's doing, or at least it appears so.

Yankee is an ass.

I miss tnoutdoors9 though, didn't realize how much I liked his videos until he was gone (hopefully not for good).


I'm never gonna care much for anybody that pushes their own opinion as much as Yankee does... I like YouTube videos to be at least somewhat based in fact and science.

Kind of enjoyed Yankee for a while but tuned him out a while back.  Don't know exactly what the feud is about but my feelings match RR. 

Overkill338

Glad to see I'm not alone on the Yankee subject.
Don't hate all of us Virginians. Not all of us voted for Ridiculous Ralph Blackface

Intercooler

I think it stems from different stances on the NRA bump-stock comments and support. Then it turned into an ethical thing about money and who is on the take. It seems Yankee spewed the dope on how 8888's vidoes get done, amount of money and ethics of them. It was $4,000 a video to whatever MFG wanted one done :)

Screwball

Quote from: Intercooler on October 24 2017 02:03:19 AM MDTIt seems Yankee spewed the dope on how 8888's vidoes get done, amount of money and ethics of them. It was $4,000 a video to whatever MFG wanted one done :)

They did that Taurus review, and just saw a bunch of "$4,000" comments. [emoji23]

Funny thing to have it come up with iraqveteran8888, as you'd think some other channels would be discussed before, but I actually agree with YankeeMarshal. The response video that Eric and Chad put out really didn't answer what the original statement was. I asked it in their comments, never was touched on... if you are saying something was taken out of context, put it in context for us. Very simple idea. Personally, I don't think there is a way that statement can come out as positive for the 2nd Amendment, from two guys that are "No Compromise" and allude to "Not One Inch."

The money thing actually has been alluded to for years by nutnfancy, so it doesn't shock me. Seeing the price and stipulations that iraqveteran8888 was setting did shock me (and that was when he was smaller, and a few years old, so I'm sure they are higher now). Personally, it made them come off so greedy... and that is from someone who has purchased ManCans from them because they used to act like they barely can make ends meet, that I unsubscribed. YankeeMarshal... I'm still subscribed to, as I do like different thought processes, as well as revolvers. But one thing to point out, YankeeMarshal isn't telling people to not give iraqveteran8888 the time of day. In some of his videos, he even stated to support them via Patreon if you want to. He is just calling out their stance on the stupid chat that Tim from MAC was the main defense of the 2nd Amendment.

That chat really showed how many people are getting paid from the NRA. You saw MAC supporting the NRA prior to that statement regarding the bump stocks... but in videos after, he doesn't tell people to join anymore. I respect that, and even though I'm a life member, I won't give them another dollar until Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox are out (disgusting, but will never happen). For Eric to call YankeeMarshal as the one dividing the gun community (in reality, YouTube isn't the gun community)... why not point the finger at the NRA for tossing our rights to the people against the 2nd Amendment? And for his calls for unity within his respond video, I really doubt his stance is one that I'd want to support.

Subscribers/supporters of iraqveteran8888 can say what they want, but I was one of them prior to all this. What has been shown thus far really had me clean up my subscription list on YouTube. I haven't watched many of Eric's videos lately, but refuse to until there is some statement that explains the chat issue (something that likely will not happen).

Spudmeister

I am not deep in the weeds on any of this stuff.  After all... It's You Tube.  But in the real world everybody is on the take.  Call it a job, a business, or simply a way to turn work into money.  The plumber is on the take.  So is the cop.  The money has to come from somewhere.  If Eric and Chad have a good moneymaking formula.... good for them.  They produce a fine product and people are willing to pay for it.  How anyone can look down on them for that is beyond me.  Love them or hate them but it is their business to run their way.  There just might be a lot of jealous content providers that dream of having what Chad and Eric have built. 

sqlbullet

I like IV8888's videos, and I generally don't like the Yankee Marshall.  His attacks on my beloved 10mm as a personal defense round are just the beginning of my dislike.

That said.....

Yankee Marshall is not wrong that the NRA does not use my money effectively to fight for my gun rights.  The SAF has done far more to secure those rights by establishing case law about the second amendment.  Not that such case law can't be over-turned, but it is far less susceptible to the current "mood".

I am an NRA member, and probably always will be.  I find their training curriculum to be very good, and I am an NRA certified instructor.  I don't have a problem with the NRA paying youtuber's to produce gun content, and I kinda think anyone who thinks the big youtube channels are put up out of altruism are misguided.  Those guys are finding ways to monetize what they like.

I do the same, just not to the same extent.  I spent this past Saturday getting my final classes in to become a Concealed Firearms Permit Instructor in my state.  I should have my official instructor number back by end of week.  I don't plan to teach a ton of students, but if I can make a couple $K a year talking about guns that will be nice.  Gonna talk about them anyway most likely :P

While I don't doubt the feud is to some degree real, I also don't discount that it is probably being blown up a little by one or both parties to draw in viewers.

my_old_glock


Iraqvet8888 charges for videos? I never knew that. Now I can't trust anything he says.


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Intercooler

   Yea. In their is a blurb about if the pistol or thing being tested doesn't make it, they have to send replacements to complete the video.

  I always take most of the videos with a grain of salt. You know if MFG's are sending a piece to a big review channel it will be the cream of the crop piece!

Intercooler


Rojo27

#12
Yankee Marshal is a tool! 
I couldnt care less about his bloviating opinion on any topic. 

His whole schtick is about being a contentious, antagonistic, bellicose, contrary knucklehead.

So IV8888 takes $ for content.  BIG SHOCK :o.....  News flash: Just in:  Water is wet!

If you only want firearm or ammunition content on YouTube that's free from all traces of sponsorship, product placement or marketing plugs...  There isn't any. 
Andrew has been saying that here and on his own and other channels for years. 

Hell yea I'll still watch IV8888 if he (they) have a video on a topic that interests me; and I'll continue to give YM's opinion on bump stocks, NRA, religion, transgender rights, Coke vs. Pepsi, self protection side arm choices or the Holy Trinity the weight it deserves.....Exactly what you pay for it. 

Ridgerunner665

#13
People gotta make a living...I don't do shit for free either.

I hope he (IR8888) makes himself independently wealthy doing videos, they're very well done, entertaining, informative, and interesting videos... He should get something for his efforts.

Remember the old saying, you get what you pay for...

YouTube has evolved, its no longer just videos on the internet... It is very much a TV channel of its own.

There are exceptions, but the rule is gonna be those guys getting paid to do what they do.

Intercooler

#14
James Yeager just got the tires too.