New gloves included with every Glock purchase!

[Intercooler]

[The_Shadow]

That might help!   

[Intercooler]

I was only kidding Glockers 

  I'm going with these just in case. I do have a small scar on the back of my hand from a piece of metal that embedded itself in the back of my hand from an out of time .38 next to me. Will take some getting comfortable with but worth it I think.

http://www.amazon.com/Hatch-KSG500-Shooting-Kevlar-X-Large/dp/B001DZT6HY/ref=sr_1_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1354826277&sr=1-2&keywords=kevlar+shooting+gloves

[Intercooler]

   Wonder why we see it in Glocks more than any other firearm? If you go to Google... hit images and type "Glock Kaboom" you will be floored with the pictures on there 

[pacapcop]

UnderWoods products work fine for new ammo for glocks.It's not a mystery.If one is CCW,ill stay with a Glock.Im not going to judge with reloads.

[EdMc]

LOL. 

[DM1906]

The occurrence of KB!'s is not necessarily more prevalent with Glock pistols.  They are simply more popular, and are most often chosen by those who exceed the limits, if for no other reason, the entry cost, and the ease and availability of aftermarket modifications.  Of all the KB!'s I've seen and experienced, NONE are the fault of the pistols, in any case.  Contrary to popular belief, a traditional steel frame 1911 experiencing the same type of failure is much more catastrophic.  Both guns die, but the 1911 causes more injury to the shooter, all else being equal.  I've never seen or heard of a Glock pistol fly apart during "normal use", but 1911's have, and do for a variety of reasons when the original design is exceeded.  I have nothing against 1911's, and Glock pistols aren't the be-all-end-all of the pistol world (I shoot them, side by side), but facts are facts.  Maybe in another 70 years, the odds will even out a bit, although I doubt it.

[Intercooler]

I find the whole Glock barrel issues suspect. I don't know another platform with as much info, pictures and videos.

[DM1906]

This is the problem.  Both cases he describes was 100% ammo related.  In the case of the G27 KB!, it was the shooter's fault, for not properly clearing a squib (he didn't check the barrel).  To fault the Glocks is not right, as the result would likely have been just as bad, or worse, with any other make/model, or barrel.  To say "I cannot recommend a Glock .40" because of these experiences, is like blaming a pencil for misspelling.

[Intercooler]

It gets into a Science we can't see. Maybe more goes on in the cycling of a round through a Glock that isn't exactly right.

What was he talking about the barrels not being up to Spec?

[The_Shadow]

There are several things that come to mind here!
Bullet set back which caused higher than normal chamber pressures...
Factory overload which was not cought by powder check...
Loose bullet fit which slid forward to block and obstruct the bore prior to ignition...

LEO are taught to tap and rack to clear a malfunction.  Did he have a malfunction prior to the KaBoom?  Was he practicing with dummy plastic cartridges mixed in the mag for training, if he did did that get stuck in the bore? 

Metal fatigue of the chamber can also  be considered as the chamber area is very thin on the smaller and lighter weight guns.

At any rate, stuff can and will happen it is Murphy's Law!

[4949shooter]

DM1906 is correct in my book.

Intercooler, I dare you to post this for your new buddies over on Glocktalk. 

[Intercooler]

 

That would be funny. I know many of them are reloads but something seems missing. In the 10mm platforms I wonder why we don't see it in other models? People are reloading them too. Oddly, in the other platforms people are just using the barrels that were installed in the guns (except maybe the Delta).

[DM1906]

It gets into a Science we can't see. Maybe more goes on in the cycling of a round through a Glock that isn't exactly right.

What was he talking about the barrels not being up to Spec?

The science isn't the problem.  Some things are obvious, some not.  The G27 incident is simple quantum physics:  multiple instances of matter cannot occupy the same space, at the same time.  A couple Newton's Laws also apply.  Short of forensic investigation results (which we won't likely ever see), we are left with the most likely causes of failure.  It isn't likely Glock will accept responsibility for a defective G23 barrel, nor will they accept responsibility for the G27 barrel obstruction.  Ammo failure is the most likely suspect in both cases.

The mention of "out of spec" barrels was a reference to oversize chamber.  This isn't news, and didn't appear to be a surprise to either shooter.  Irrelevant, in either case.  A tighter chamber with greater case support may have caused a greater catastrophe in the case of the G27 KB!, while it wouldn't have likely made a difference with the G23 case.  In either case, it would have been a matter of effect, and not a causal factor.

[DM1906]

 

That would be funny. I know many of them are reloads but something seems missing. In the 10mm platforms I wonder why we don't see it in other models? People are reloading them too. Oddly, in the other platforms people are just using the barrels that were installed in the guns (except maybe the Delta).

Neither pistol discussed in this thread were 10mm's.  The failure rate may or may not be higher for 10mm pistols, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were.  Of all the Glock pistols in service, the 10mm's are the least likely to be issued by law enforcement, or used by weekend casual shooters.  The typical 10mm owner/shooter is more likely to be one of higher power demands (desires), hunters, or enthusiasts.  Couple this with the rather weak offering of commercial ammo, the result is a higher rate of handloaded ammo being used in the platform.  The fact is, similar failures do happen in other calibers/platforms, and it's likely to be at a very similar per-unit in service rate.  DE's don't fail any more often than any other pistol, when used as designed and recommended.  The failure rate of any platform will fail at a higher rate, any time it is modified, or non-recommended ammo is used.  Every common firearm manufacturer disclaims any responsibility for a modified firearm, or the use of handloaded ammo.  A firearm used as recommended will rarely ever suffer a catastrophic failure.  It really is that simple.