G20 & G27 KaBoom's

[REDLINE]

In that case, for the extra $25, I would too.

[MrRedbull616]

I have 7 storm lake barrels. None of them fit correctly in my 3 Glock 20s.  Slide is slightly retracted on all of them.  I don't know if that is the reason why they feed for crap (i've already sent some of them back once and personally polished the hell out of the chamber) or the super tight chamber or combo of both.


powder we were using was longshot for the 40sw 135 nosler and 10mm 200 nosler.  I've shot my friend's ammo plenty before in other barrels with out incident and have since fired more of the same loadings in said barrels still with out incident.

I contacted lone wolf back on 11/20 after it happened and have since received zero response of any kind.

I will probably continue to purchase their barrels but not in 40sw or 10mm. The fact that they haven't given any response is disappointing.  I have had a kkm with weak chamber support...so the point of the video was to check all your barrels and your brass as you fire.

[Yondering]

For future reference, when working up loads or trying a new barrel, REMOVE THE MAGAZINE! That would've prevented the damage to your frame and your hand.

If I understood right from the video, you're gun blew up with the first shot out of a new barrel, right? This is exactly why you must work up loads in your barrel, don't assume a load that works in one barrel is safe in another! There's a lot more to it than just chamber support too; you can't just check that and assume your hot loads are safe in that barrel.

[Bro KV]

I have 7 storm lake barrels. None of them fit correctly in my 3 Glock 20s.  Slide is slightly retracted on all of them.  I don't know if that is the reason why they feed for crap (i've already sent some of them back once and personally polished the hell out of the chamber) or the super tight chamber or combo of both.

Doesn't it say that there maybe some fitment required?

[MrRedbull616]

agree 100%.  learned the hard way

For future reference, when working up loads or trying a new barrel, REMOVE THE MAGAZINE! That would've prevented the damage to your frame and your hand.

If I understood right from the video, you're gun blew up with the first shot out of a new barrel, right? This is exactly why you must work up loads in your barrel, don't assume a load that works in one barrel is safe in another! There's a lot more to it than just chamber support too; you can't just check that and assume your hot loads are safe in that barrel.

[DM1906]

For future reference, when working up loads or trying a new barrel, REMOVE THE MAGAZINE! That would've prevented the damage to your frame and your hand.

If I understood right from the video, you're gun blew up with the first shot out of a new barrel, right? This is exactly why you must work up loads in your barrel, don't assume a load that works in one barrel is safe in another! There's a lot more to it than just chamber support too; you can't just check that and assume your hot loads are safe in that barrel.

I'll echo this.  Every "new" load should be handled in the same manner.  "New" can mean almost anything, including new/different gun components.  The same also applies to a load when using different components, including a new/different lot of powder or primers.  Even bullet weights can vary significantly over time, and it wouldn't be the first time if a manufacturer mislabels a whole run of bullets.

Kevlar gloves, enhanced eye/face protection (full face shield), ballistic vest (soft body armor, or Clint Eastwood style), magazine OUT, long sleeves, spectators at a distance, and more.  Overkill?  Perhaps.  It's only weird until something bad happens.  Also, it's entertaining to see the reactions of first-time guests at my range while in full EOD garb.  Why risk it?  My family needs me and my abilities.

[DM1906]

agree 100%.  learned the hard way

Actually, you learned the EASY way.  The hard way is discussed posthumously.

[MrRedbull616]

I have 7 barrels for G20.  you would think ONE of them would not have this issue in one of my 3 G20s.   My G20s are early gen 3,  mid gen 3 and last month.   They have been sent back and SLB can't figure it out. I sent them a video and they can't figure it out.   I'm not saying they are a bad barrel cuz they are much more accurate than lone wolf and maybe even KKM. But plan on the real possibility you may have to send it back and fit it etc etc.

I have 7 storm lake barrels. None of them fit correctly in my 3 Glock 20s.  Slide is slightly retracted on all of them.  I don't know if that is the reason why they feed for crap (i've already sent some of them back once and personally polished the hell out of the chamber) or the super tight chamber or combo of both.

Doesn't it say that there maybe some fitment required?

[MrRedbull616]

if anyone wants some storm lake barrels  I'll sell a few...  (all the stuff im selling I think stinks so don't come back to me and say I didn't warn you)

G20 storm lake 5.3" extended ported ss finish - $130
G20 storm lake 4.6" black finish - $135
G29 storm lake 3.8" ss finish - $121


Those are pretty close to my buddy's prices (he's a dealer with them) so I'm not going any lower than what's posted above. They also just raised their prices for next year so that's another reason.

also have

glock store tungsten guide rod with 22# ism spring - $44
lone wolf ss guide rod 22# spring - $18
wolff guide rod and (2) 22lb wolff springs - $29

lone wolf g29 ported barrel - new unfired - $100
lone wolf G20 9x25 dillon 6" barrel - $105
lone wolf G29 9x25 dillon 3.8" bbl - $90
lone wolf G21 400corbon 4.6" bbl - $80

G20 10rd mags - new $20 ea (have 2)
trijicon front sight 2012'  new g20 21 29 30 - $30

we need a for sale section!

[REDLINE]

I have 7 storm lake barrels. None of them fit correctly in my 3 Glock 20s.  Slide is slightly retracted on all of them.  I don't know if that is the reason why they feed for crap (i've already sent some of them back once and personally polished the hell out of the chamber) or the super tight chamber or combo of both.

That's just weird.  Will you post a pic or video showing what you're saying?

Did you buy all 7 barrels at the same time (like from the same batch)?

I have one G20 and one Storm Lake barrel for it.  Haven't shot anything through it yet.  I compared its fit to the stock barrel of the G20.  I can't see a difference in the way they fit.  Not that my Storm Lake barrel shouldn't fit properly, but was just checking it out after what you said and couldn't tell any difference.

Pics or video of what you're saying would be great.

[MrRedbull616]

bought 3 at same time.  rest I bought used from different places and at different times.

ok i'll do a vid

[REDLINE]

bought 3 at same time.  rest I bought used from different places and at different times.

ok i'll do a vid

Thank you, looking forward to it.

[MrRedbull616]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=J2lGyHrtplc


could have shown more but it's a waste of time. They all do the same thing. April's cure is to send them all in at my expense (already sent 3 of them and they hosed that up). David's cure is to "have one of his "techs" look at them all..because he doesn't have the time and that's not what he does."  He also wants the whole gun..which I replied should I send in all 4 guns they don't work/fit in??? lol

I'm not bitter or mad or trying to be a dink. The above is exactly what they said. I just think it's sad and frustrating, because they seem to have the ability (machinery) to make a hell of a barrel. The cuts on them are beautiful...they obviously must have a very high dollar cnc.

My only problems with them are they haven't figured out the feed ramp yet to get reliable feeding into their super tight chambers. The black coating just makes this worse.  And they have this weird quirk where the slide is slightly retracted on all of them...at least the 7 barrels I have which are all for the glock 20 and glock 29. I can not speak for any other models.

btw they did not offer to exchange the barrels. they did offer to refund the purchase price if I could produce a receipt...which is no problem on the 3 I bought from my dealer but the rest of them I'm S O L. 

The whole thing is just a sad frustrating waste of time and effort.

[MrRedbull616]

well i know someone will ask so...

hood length

SLB 6" = 1.3345
glock factory 4.6"  = 1.3350
lone wolf 5.2 threaded  = 1.3360
SLB 357sig conv = 1.3355

so that's not it.

by the way 10mmFire is going to be my new youtube channel. I'm going to start doing something different on the ballistics testing front. I'll also be moving all my vids from redbull616 channel to the 10mmfire channel so if you like my vids please subscribe to 10mmFire . Thanks!!!

[The_Shadow]

RedBull616, there are three very important points of contactfor these...

The barrel hood length which you show them as less than factory, this adjust the headspacing with the breech face.
The forward step helps with lockup to the slide and it appears that they are fitting upward into the slide lik they should.
The locking lug is another area which may be the problem, as it is camming on the locking block of the frame. 

This are could be the one that is holding you barrels & frame fit out of full lockup.  The smallest differences here can affect the lockup of the gun.  Great care is needed to insure that this fit is correct, it may take specialized jig & measuring tools to full see any differences as compared to the factory barrel fit.  These angles are critical for proper lockup timing.

You may want to look at the locking block itself for wear patterns.

Good luck with getting things fixed!