G20 & G27 KaBoom's

[MrRedbull616]

Experienced a couple of Kabooms.   Check your chamber support!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgAL6dmrcHM

[Intercooler]

   Sorry to hear this and glad you aren't too banged up. This video convinced me to buy those Kevlar lined gloves and do my shooting with them. It's my rule that if you shoot enough and long enough IT WILL HAPPEN! I wonder if in a metal frame how it would have went? Possible eject the mag and blow the grip panels off?


I'm still watching the video to see if you took any measurements to smoke out any barrel differences.

[REDLINE]

Sorry about what happened.  Thanks for the video!  Thanks for the closeups of all the barrels you have.  Very informative.

I'm very loosely forming the idea that KKM may be the best all around aftermarket barrel to go with, assuming their tolerances are consistently held in production over time.  Just seems like they have as good as chamber support as should generally be needed for hot loads, while still feeding reliably on account of having a slightly larger overall chamber than either Storm Lake or Bar-Sto.

Otherwise, Storm Lake and Bar-Sto seem to be excellent in the chamber support overall, and are great if a guy doesn't mind tweaking them till they run 100%.

I haven't had my brand new Storm Lake barrel (G20 6.02") out yet and therefore can't comment on it yet.  No doubt it's chamber support is excellent, which simply leaves the question of how well it will run with any and all ammo.

[The_Shadow]

MrRedBull616, would you care to share the load data that you had that blew out the casing causing the damage...It wold be good to learn from this situation to help others to not get hurt...

[Intercooler]

My XD 9mm support:



Someone is having problems with Underwood +P+ in a G26. Trying to see what that looks like.

[jiminthe burg]

@ intercooler.  Had a mishap w/ a Ruger P-89.  The case head was partially " blown-out " and the case was split almost length wise with the split starting almost at the mouth.
To this day, I am not sure what happened but I do not think it was too much powder as the case would not hold much more powder and I was using 7 grains of hs -7 under a 115 fmj which is almost max.

It blew the metal mag. out of the pistol, 1 side of the ambi. safety and the hammer. Needless to say, it would not go back into battery. Fortunately, no person damage other that hand stinging for a few minutes.

[Danimal]

Jeez.  Glad you are relatively ok.  I recently bought a Lonewolf G-20 for my Longslide project and sent it back after I noticed the liberal chamber support that seems to be the norm in their new production barrels.

New Lonewolf barrel on left, Old (at least 2 years) Lonewolf barrel on right.




I have since ordered a Storm Lake 6.02" 10mm barrel from Midway.  It has been on backorder for about 2 months now.

[Bro KV]

I have since ordered a Storm Lake 6.02" 10mm barrel from Midway.  It has been on backorder for about 2 months now.

Just put one on backorder, myself. It said they are due tomorrow. I have been waiting for 62gr Armscor .224 bullets since September.

[REDLINE]

I have since ordered a Storm Lake 6.02" 10mm barrel from Midway.  It has been on backorder for about 2 months now.

Just put one on backorder, myself. It said they are due tomorrow. I have been waiting for 62gr Armscor .224 bullets since September.

That's the thing with Storm Lake, you can have to wait up to a year or so for a barrel, depending on the barrel ordered.  I know this because when I ordered mine some months back I asked them about some people claiming to have to wait a solid year for a barrel.  They said that was absolutely true, and never even attempted to dance around the question.  I asked why.  They said it's because they don't do single barrel orders.  They said they do production runs of all the barrels they sell, and when the next production run comes up, then it does, and not before.

So I asked how it happened that the barrel I ordered (G20 10mm 6.02") from them only took 2 months for me to receive from the day I ordered it.  They said it was simply that the production run for the barrel I wanted just happened to be coming up shortly at the time, so my order was thrown in with that barrel production run.

I'm happy I got mine and was willing to wait however long it took to get it.  I wanted A-1 chamber support and wasn't willing to compromise even if it didn't run 100%.  What I wish would happen is for more distributors to order more at a time and reorder before they run out.  But it is what it is and we'll just have to live with it.

KKM would be my only other consideration.  I'm not willing to pay the price for Bar-Sto.  Lone Wolf is a shot in the dark being that you never know what you'll get from them.  As for EFK Firedragon;  I have no clue.  Seems no one wants to be the first to try one and/or forward feedback on one if they do have one.

Anyway, the key to Storm Lake is patience.  Kinda just have to try to forget about, and when you get it you get it.  It's worth the wait IMHO.

[Bro KV]

Did you order direct from SL?

[REDLINE]

Yes.  But even though they aren't accepting factory direct purchases anymore, it won't really take any longer to get one through a distributor like Midway than if you ordered factory direct, because the barrels will still only be produced when the next production run for the barrel in question comes up for another production run.

To get the best answer on when you'll get your barrel, I would call Storm Lake and ask when the next production run for the barrel you want is scheduled to come around again.  They were more than happy to tell me, and even though I had still ordered factory direct, I don't see why they wouldn't be just as happy to tell you even considering you'll get yours through a distributor.  I've never got the impression from them that they aren't generally driven by customer satisfaction.  Only that we'ld prefer they drop everything and fill our order ASAP, which isn't how they choose to do business for whatever reason.  Maybe it's a quality over speed/quantity thing?

Storm Lake phone numbers;
Ordering -  (866)392-1654
Technical Support -  (865)988-8933

Storm Lake full contact web page with hours of operation;  http://www.storm-lake.com/support

[Intercooler]

I have all the original barrels in my pistols. Why is it Glocks need them and then even when you get aftermarket they don't seem to be what people are looking for 

[DM1906]

Jeez.  Glad you are relatively ok.  I recently bought a Lonewolf G-20 for my Longslide project and sent it back after I noticed the liberal chamber support that seems to be the norm in their new production barrels.

New Lonewolf barrel on left, Old (at least 2 years) Lonewolf barrel on right.




I have since ordered a Storm Lake 6.02" 10mm barrel from Midway.  It has been on backorder for about 2 months now.

I have several LWD barrels, and none of them look like your "new" barrel.  I hope they get their act together, as I really like the ones I have, and planned to order others.  At this time, I'd rather buy older used, than new.

[Danimal]

Glockmeister has them (Storm Lake 6.02" G-20 barrel) listed on their site. However, they're $25 more than Midway, and I don't think that they show real time inventory. I tried to order my Longslide from them and it said it was available on their site, but when I called to verify if they actually had them in stock the guy laughed and said it would be at least 3-6 months before they actually got them in.

Anyways, at the end of the day I'll never buy another Lonewolf barrel, unless it's for a bottlenecked cartridge.

[Danimal]

Damnit. The 6.02" barrel on back order was supposed to be in 12/08. Just looked at it shows 12/30 for an expected date now. Guess I'll give glockmeister a shot.