Shotgun in the 12 gauge variety

[Intercooler]

   I don't have one but have been looking into them. I love the looks of a Wingmaster but new they are $700 and used $300-$400. Looking through the Mossberg lineup I saw one there also very nice (let me dig it up). Always better to go pump rather than Semi if things get crazy right? The Remington Express is nice but not eye candy or finished like the Wingmaster. Who knows shotguns here?

[Intercooler]

http://grabagun.com/mossberg-sons-inc-50126-500-12-3in-28-accu-wal.html

[The_Shadow]

First shotgun I shot was the Remington 12ga. 870 Wingmaster, sweet natural point as my dad let me shoot it.  When I was old enough, I purchased my own 870, many ducks, rabbits and squirrels have been harvested with it!  It still stands ready as ever.

[Intercooler]

   Do you think Remington is putting out a better product than Mossberg these days? I'm a lefty so the safety on the Moss is better positioned. Used Remington on new Moss? I have birthday money burning a hole in my pocket 

[The_Shadow]

I would suggest trying them out to see how they feel, point and swing for you.  I haven't studied the Shotgun market but both are nice guns.  If you're a lefty try to find one for your lefty controls that will make a difference too! 

[REDLINE]

If you simply want a no-nonsense pump 12GA with great features that handles ALL shell lengths available and won't fail you then the Benelli Nova, field or tactical setups, is the only dog left in the fight.  Either tactical or field models can be had for well under $500 brand spanking new.

They use a dual slide rail design so the pump action will always slide perfectly rearward and back forward.  The stock and receiver are mated as a single unit.  With the push of a button you can keep rounds from feeding from the magazine and change out a round in the chamber if need be.  The butt stock is designed with a space for a mercury recoil reducer.  It incorporates a rotary head locking lug bolt system.  Slug barrels are available and easily changed out.  Choose barrel lengths of 24", 26", or 28", except for slug barrels that are only available in 24".  The firearm is warrantied from Benelli for 10 YEARS.  If they ever need to replace your gun with a new one, that new one starts the 10 YEAR warranty period over again.  When it was said there was no way to further innovate the pump shotgun the folks at Benelli proved different.

I personally own a Benelli semi-auto that I bought new in July of 2001.  In that time I have run +3500 rounds through it, very few of them being less than a hot load.  Still looks and operates like brand new.

Going with anything else is settling for less, unless you want a side-by-side, over and under, a super tricked out trap/skeet/sporting-clays setup(s), or you simply prefer wood.

http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli-nova-pump.php


That's my $0.02.  Good Luck!  Keep us informed. 

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Do they have something decent to look at?

[pacapcop]

Don't discount the semi's.I got 2 of them and perform reliable.Both Saiga 12's.I shoot clays with target loads and full 3" mag loads.I have stick mags,12 rounders,8's and 5's.i can reload at the drop of a hat even with bolt closed.I did't get crazy tricking it out,and it's 922r compliance if i used it for defense purposes.8 rounders are liked,good for close quarters.They even make tacticle vests for em.it lays massive fire power down.i here some law enforcement agencys are getting them,just don't no which ones.they are battle guns,Russian Spetnaz forces use them.You can ck out Buds,they have a line up of Limberta shotguns that seem intresting and come semi or pump.

[Deadguy]

I'm with Redline on this one.

I own a Benelli Nova tactical (rifle sights version) and it's an incredible shotgun. The smoothness of the pump action is second to none in the inexpensive short barrel pump shotgun market. I tried the Remington 870 and the Mossberg 500 and neither felt as good to me. The versatility of being able to shoot 2-3/4", 3", and 3-1/2" magnum shells is a huge plus.  I added the extended tube and it gives me 7+1 rounds of 2-3/4" 00-buck sitting near the bed.

Love that gun.

[sqlbullet]

I tend to agree with Redline as well.  If you can find an older 870 for a good price, it would be a solid gun.  But, from what I have read and seen, the new ones are not up to the same standard the old ones were.

Mossberg is Mossberg.  I had one years ago.  It was a good gun, but not outstanding in any way.

[uz2bUSMC]

I will say that I am with Redline, as well. A while back I was in need of a utility shotgun so I started my investigation. What I found was that SQLbullet is right about the newer 870's, they seem to be more problematic,even though aftermarket suport is great, I didn't want to deal with the 870. Also, as stated, Mossbergs are Mossbergs. They are decent but can have their problems, too. After looking at the Benellis (I like the way they look) it seemed that the Nova was the best bang for the buck since I couldn't forsee a need to change the buttstock later. It's light and the fit and finish is great. The action is smooth and with the extended foregrip you don't have to reach way the hell forward to cycle the thing (of course you can change them on other guns). The only intial drawback I had seen was the cost of a slug barrel was high (in relation to the cost of the gun)...further investigation showed that slug chokes actually work (I was a bit surprised). So all in all, the amount of features and versatility that Benelli offers at the price point of the Nova, it seems hard to beat, IMHO.

[REDLINE]

I've heard the same thing as others have mentioned regarding newer model 870s not living up to the same standards as what once made them the go-to pump action platform.  Talk about a stupid business decision, at least in my mind.

[REDLINE]

Is there a specific reason you didn't start this thread in the Shotguns section of Miscellaneous Firearms?

[Intercooler]

Guess I overlooked it. Can someone move it?

[Intercooler]

Thanks for moving it! I have been researching and it's the plastic Glock of the Shotgun World