230 grain .45 vs 200 grain 10mm penetration and for bears/ hogs

[5pins]

Tried some new loads through the chorography this morning.  I increased the .45 charge to 8.3gr of longshot and got 968fps average, 996fps high and 943fps low. Still no sign of pressure. I'm going to try 8.5fps next.

With the 10mm, things are getting stranger. I reduced the load to 8.3gr of longshot, just like the .45, but got an increase of velocity to an average 1160fps. I'm still showing signs of over pressure, maybe even more.

[5pins]

Better success today. First off the .45ACP. I increased the powder charge to 8.5gr and got an average velocity of 1024fpswith a high of 1044fps and a low of 1012fps. Still no sign of pressure. A little surprising since it's way over the book load of 8.1gr for the .45 Super but the case looks like a factory +P at the most.

I dropped the 10mm down to 8.0gr and got an average velocity of 1102fps a high of 1121fps and a low of 1077fps. Still showing signs of pressure but not as much. I will load two more up with this load to shoot in gel but that will be it until some different brass and maybe a new recoil spring.

I should be able to shoot these in gel Friday.   

[4949shooter]

Looking forward to the gel results..

[Rojo27]

Appreciate your efforts 5pins!!!

[5pins]

Had a chance to shoot them through the gel this morning. Very impressive results.
 
The 190gr Cutting Edge 10mm bullets went the farthest. The first round had a velocity of 1104fps and penetrated the first three 16 inch blocks and stopped two and a quarter inches into the forth for a total penetration of 50.25 inches of gel. The second bullet hit the gel at 1118fps and had a total penetration of 52.75 inches. The brass showed very little signs of pressure, so I would consider this load very safe for a Colt DE. I will probably take the bullets I have left and load them with this load.
 
The CE .45 bullets were also impressive. First round had a velocity of 1025fps and penetrated to 41.75 inches.  Number two hit at 1052fps and penetrated to 42.25 inches. I consider these very good results for a .45 ACP.

The wound tracks, for both the 10mm and .45, were straight with no deviation.

If you compare this with the other .45 test I did with the 230gr ball and the Lehigh I did earlier it is much better. The Lehigh I tried only penetrated to 23 inches at 1004fps and my 230gr FMJ handload did 38.5 at 1000fps.     

 

[The_Shadow]

Very nice report 5pins...

[4949shooter]

Thanks for the report 5pins. Does anyone load these 190 grain bullets?

[5pins]

Here are some picks of the bullets.

10mm 190gr


.45 200gr

[4949shooter]

Are they copper solids?

[5pins]

Are they copper solids?

Yes.

[5pins]

Thanks for the report 5pins. Does anyone load these 190 grain bullets?

Not that I know of.

[5pins]

I just posted a more in-depth review on my blog.

http://www.general-cartridge.com/blog/cutting-edge-10mm-and-45-hg-solid-bullets

[Goetztalon]

Great review!!! Thanks!

[The_Shadow]

5pins, what powder did you use for the velocity seen for 10mm 1118fps & 45 ACP 1052fps?

[5pins]

5pins, what powder did you use for the velocity seen for 10mm 1118fps & 45 ACP 1052fps?

Longshot.