Cutting Edge 190 grain copper solid

[5pins]

Perhaps I'm expecting too much from them in this gun. I'm going to drop the down to 8.3gr and see how that works. I'm using new Starline brass.
I'm also trying this bullet in the 200gr .45 and I need to up the charge to 8.3gr also so that should make loading some up tonight easier. 
I did pick up some Blue Dot last week and maybe I'll give it a try later but for now, I will just try some more of the Longshot tomorrow.

[Ridgerunner665]

I tried Blue Dot, it spiked way too early...

[5pins]

I reduced the load to 8.3gr of longshot but got an increase of velocity to an average 1160fps. I'm still showing signs of over pressure, maybe even more.

[5pins]

I dropped down to 8.0gr and got an average velocity of 1102fps a high of 1121fps and a low of 1077fps. Still showing signs of pressure but not as much. I will load two more up with this load to shoot in gel but that will be it until some different brass and maybe a new recoil spring.

[5pins]

Had a chance to shoot them through the gel this morning. Very impressive results.
 
The first round had a velocity of 1104fps and penetrated the first three 16 inch blocks and stopped two and a quarter inches into the forth for a total penetration of 50.25 inches of gel. The second bullet hit the gel at 1118fps and had a total penetration of 52.75 inches. The brass showed very little signs of pressure, so I would consider this load very safe for a Colt DE. I will probably take the bullets I have left and load them with this load.



I also shot the CE 200gr in .45ACP. here is the link if you want to read about how they did. 

http://10mm-firearms.com/10mm-hunting/230-grain-45-vs-200-grain-10mm-penetration-and-for-bears-hogs/msg74226/#new

 

[wjdell]

Yeah, 1,130 - 1,150 fps with those bullets from a 5 inch barrel is moving right along.

I'd back them down to 1,100 fps and call it good if the accuracy was there.

But I understand wanting more speed, I did too... Just couldn't quite get there with any powder I tried, not even from a 7 inch barrel.

Ridgerunner - have you done anymore with the 190. i am going to get a box to load this year. I have quite a few powders but was wondering if you tried Longshot and VV3N38. Usually all I load is mild for use at a range. My carry rounds are just a bit under max. But this bullet I was hoping to exceed 600 ft. lb. 650 would be great. I joined after reading allot of your post. I know this is old thread but if you get this any info is welcome.   

[nhyrum]

I think I have a box of these bullets, or maybe their HP for my 10, I can't remember. But, I did load their 300 grain solid in my 454 casull. Shot through a Honda cylinder block. Looked almost like yours, but had a small dent on the front.

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[choo2x]

I've been lurking through this site since I got my G20SF for pulldown information, etc. and it's been very helpful.  Because of the information, I was able to determine that Longshot was the best powder for reloading my 220 grain Ibejiheads in 10mm.

I have a StormLake 5.3" ported barrel installed in my G20SF.  When I examined the brass that was shot in the stock barrel, I determined that I didn't want to experiment with fast loads with the stock barrel.  My friend has a StormLake 4.6" barrel installed in his G20SF and I gain ~20 fps over his barrel, due to the extra length before the first port releases the gas.

We started experimenting with Longshot behind the 190 grain Cutting Edge bullet, but the speed maxed out at 1,082 fps once the amount of Longshot passed 7.7 grains.  8.0 grains and 8.5 grains of Longshot did nothing to add speed to the bullet, the bang was just louder.

Reading this thread, it seemed that we should try a powder with a speed between Longshot and 800-X to drive these Cutting Edge 190 grain bullets.  We had some CFE Pistol around, so we ran a ladder of 6.5, 7.0, 7.5 and 8.0 grains using Winchester LPP and new *-* brass.  All of the primers and brass looked the same, so we don't think we've hit the limit yet. 

The average speed we got through the 5.3" ported barrel with 8.0 grains of CFE Pistol was 1,190 fps.

We're going to try 8.2 and 8.4 grains of CFE Pistol the next time we have a chance to see if we can get the speed over 1,200 fps without flattening the primers.  I'll report back when we get a chance to test again.

Shelton

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[The_Shadow]

choo2x, Welcome to the forum and thanks for your range report.  I was looking at Buffalo Bore having these bullets in their ammo just the other day!  Haven't had a chance to see what's inside them yet!

Best regards and enjoy the forum! 

[choo2x]

Thanks.  I'm looking forward to what you find during your pulldown.

[5pins]

The bullet BB is using isn't the Cutting Edge bullet. It has a different ogive and is made by Lehigh. It looks interesting.

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=571

[Troll_Toes]

Is there any advantage of using these CE 190gr bullets over the 200 gr MBW WFN.

[The_Shadow]

Well some places have a band on lead bullets of any kind!  California is one of those states... :'(