Ruger 10

[14 GT-500]

How does one know that the Ruger 10mm is better then the Colt Delta Elite?? Has there been any test shooting or range reports of the Ruger 10mm that I haven't seen yet??  Just asking.

[Barry in IN]

I've already heard something like this a couple of  times from people I know:   "If I didn't already have a 1911 in 10mm, the Ruger is likely the one I'd be looking hardest at. "

That is their market.   There are quite a few people who would like a 10mm 1911, but haven't seen one they've been willing to buy.    Maybe they don't think a Delta is worth it, some have never seen certain brands in their favorite shop, maybe they are unaware of some guns that are being made, etc 

And, whether right or wrong, they won't buy a handgun that isn't a S&W, Colt, Sig, Glock , or Ruger.

That's the big one.  It's for all those guys who want a Delta Elite because it's a Colt, but think it costs too much, also because it's a Colt.   
Maybe it's not entirely reasonable, but this puts a "legitimate" make of 10mm 1911 out there at a relatively good price.   

[dred]

How does one know that the Ruger 10mm is better then the Colt Delta Elite?? Has there been any test shooting or range reports of the Ruger 10mm that I haven't seen yet??  Just asking.

We know the Ruger is spec'd with a fully supported chamber - that'll win it for the speed freaks.

[BEEMER!]

How does one know that the Ruger 10mm is better then the Colt Delta Elite?? Has there been any test shooting or range reports of the Ruger 10mm that I haven't seen yet??  Just asking.

We know the Ruger is spec'd with a fully supported chamber - that'll win it for the speed freaks.

It could just be my old arthritic hands, but when you guys start swapping out the recoil springs to 22 #'ers you'll be cussing Ruger's bushingless design.

That is my only complaint about my 460 Rowland conversion.  It is one reason I went with the Remington Hunter.

[BEEMER!]

I am wrong on my statement above.  Ruger has figured out a better system on the one piece guide rod. 

I apologize.

http://www.realguns.com/articles/935.htm

[14 GT-500]

Oh ok I see, were going based on the fact that the Ruger is a better gun then the a Colt just because it has a ramp barrel nothing else matters.
Really guys !! how many more times do we have to go down this road?? ramp barrel vs non ramp barrel You guy's can't even wait till there is at least a few range reports. Yet I haven't seen one bad write up on the Colt Delta, have any one of you have seen one? if so please share!!
So how fast do you want to drive a 180 gr ?? I drive some of mine @ a true 1350 fps, and the Gun handles it just fine, my brass is good to reload, I still have all my fingers and no frame cracks in the Gun.
But I sure will give that Ruger a look.

[Ten2six]

Oh ok I see, were going based on the fact that the Ruger is a better gun then the a Colt just because it has a ramp barrel nothing else matters.
Really guys !! how many more times do we have to go down this road?? ramp barrel vs non ramp barrel You guy's can't even wait till there is at least a few range reports. Yet I haven't seen one bad write up on the Colt Delta, have any one of you have seen one? if so please share!!
So how fast do you want to drive a 180 gr ?? I drive some of mine @ a true 1350 fps, and the Gun handles it just fine, my brass is good to reload, I still have all my fingers and no frame cracks in the Gun.
But I sure will give that Ruger a look.

I couldn't agree more. I love my DE....I am anxious to hear a range report as well. That recoil system looks very interesting.

[14 GT-500]

Thank you so much, glad to hear that I am not the lone solider here that thinks the Colt Delta is a mighty fine 10mm. I also have a Kimber that has a fully ramp barrel, and you know what , it's not the better of the 2 !! but it does have a fully ramp barrel so it has to be, right.

[sqlbullet]

Delta Elite is a fine gun, and I have said many times here that I have no concerns shooting any published load data in the gun.  Underwood has specifically warned that some of their ammo should not be used in a Delta Elite, and to me that says far more about how SAAMI spec Underwood is than how SAAMI spec the Delta Elite is.

That said, especially for a reloader, you will see the occasional bulged brass that has to go in the recycle bin with a Delta Elite barrel that you would not see on a fully supported ramped barrel.  So, if you reload, the ramped barrel is superior, even if it is not required for safe shooting.  Advantage Ruger (if you reload)

The Delta Elite has a forged frame, which is important to purists.  But, the very best cast frames, such as those produced by Ruger subsidiaries, are only bettered by the highest quality forgings.  I don't know of any destructive testing of the Colt vs the Ruger frames, but I would be a bit suprised is Ruger did not equal the Colt in such tests.  And Ruger is well known to stand behind their products.   Advantage Colt (but not really to me)

The Delta Elite has a flared ejection port.  For reloaders especially this would be an important feature, again to preserve brass condition.  But, in a stainless gun you can flare an ejection port in about an hour with a dremel tool, some basic files, and some sandpaper.  Advantage Colt (again, slim)

Colt is a more desirable 1911 name than Ruger.  Advantage Colt.

The Ruger has fully adjustable sights.  Now, if you are looking for a carry gun, this may not mean much.  In fact, large, sharp edged Bo-Mar style sights may be disadvantage.  But they are considered an upgrade.  Advantage Ruger.

The Ruger is a series 70 gun.  The Delta Elite is a series 80.  This is something that is hotly debated, but here are some simple physics:  The Series 80 trigger has more parts to move against friction, and therefore in the absolute sense will always be inferior to the Series 70 trigger.  Yes, there are great Series 80 triggers and there are bad series 70 triggers.  Yes, most humans may be unable to tell the difference in the very best of the two.  But the fact remains that there IS more friction in the Series 80 system.  Advantage Ruger

The Ruger has a trigger with an overtravel stop.  As best I can tell the new Delta Elite does not.  Advantage Ruger

The Ruger barrel has a nitride finish for enhanced durability.  Advantage Ruger

The Colt Delta Elite on gunbroker with filters Factory New and No Reserve, sort by price to the cheapest being 935, with a buy now of $949.  The Ruger with same filters can be found biddable for $650, and buy now of $734.99, a savings of $210.  (BIG) Advantage Ruger.

That is 3 for Colt, and 6 for Ruger.  Or, stated differently, 3 for Colt and 5 for the $200 cheaper Ruger.

The reviews so far are positive, but I don't think any of us have shot one yet.  I pick up mine from the FFL tomorrow at 5:30, but wont' get to shoot it for several weeks.

The Colt is a fine gun.  I would love to add one back to the safe, as it is the gun I most regret selling.  But I do think you are paying about $250 for the roll mark.  And that is what is exciting about the Ruger to me.

[TXCOONDOG]

Sqlbullet,

You broke Manrule 67: thou shall not buy a firearm without committing to shooting said firearm within 72 hrs after purchase.

Manrule 68: says you can redeem yourself by sending to TXCOONDOG for testing   

[sstewart]

Ruger is basically the same design as rock island armory.
With only a $100 premium, ruger should sell well.


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[sqlbullet]

sstewart you are right on the money.

I was thinking as I wrote the above that the best value in a 10mm 1911 right now is the Rock Island.  I have one of the hi-cap versions, and excepting that I don't really like the magwell, and they chopped the frame to make the magwell fit, it is a solid gun.  I am sure the standard capacity versions are equally impressive.

The RIA Tac II SC goes on gunbroker buy now for $560.  Downgrades are carbon steel, not stainless, and not US made.  For $175 more, buy now, you get those two upgraded features.  And US made is important to lots of gun buyers.