HELP - Can someone with load software run the 10mm numbers...........

Started by Pablo, June 01 2017 05:06:40 AM MDT

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Pablo

Basically I am asking (begging?  8)) if anyone with QuickLoad and/or other loading software please check these. And also let me know where you got the program and pluses and minuses.  ;D Probably will buy.

At 1.250" and 1.260" OAL

HAP 180gr Bullets

AA#9 (13.5gr)
Longshot (10gr)
Blue Dot (11gr)
BE-86 (8.2gr)

Winchester primers

Thanks!!!

The_Shadow

Pablo some of the numbers you are going to see from QuickLoads may scare you...Also not all powders are in the QL database.
Imr800X was one powder that didn't make the database, BE-86 being new may not be as well.

Here is the Blue Dot 11.0 using a 180 grain Precision Delta FMJ.  (while the pressures are low, people have seen SMILED Brass)




Maybe Someone can post screenshots of the loads using XTP if the HAP is not in the database...
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
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Southeast, LoUiSiAna

Benchrst

Pablo


While the 180 HAP is in QL's database I've found bullet lengths are usually incorrect. If you measure a few and reply with the length I'll run the numbers for you :)

G20.4 / LW / Overwatch / Sevigny

Pablo

Quote from: Benchrst on June 01 2017 10:04:48 AM MDT
Pablo


While the 180 HAP is in QL's database I've found bullet lengths are usually incorrect. If you measure a few and reply with the length I'll run the numbers for you :)

HAP = 0.620" Thanks!!

Benchrst

QL listed the 180 HAP @ .641 :)


While QL's predictions for #9 are known to be wonky, the usual disclaimer applies:

USE AT OWN RISK!













G20.4 / LW / Overwatch / Sevigny

Pablo

Quote from: The_Shadow on June 01 2017 09:11:29 AM MDT
Pablo some of the numbers you are going to see from QuickLoads may scare you........

Yeah. That's where I'm coming from. Sum-ting not right.

Pablo

Quote from: Benchrst on June 01 2017 07:00:39 PM MDT
QL listed the 180 HAP @ .641 :)


While QL's predictions for #9 are known to be wonky, the usual disclaimer applies:

USE AT OWN RISK!



So did you use the default .641 or can you enter .620"?

Thanks very much!!

Benchrst

QL can be scary accurate with bottle neck cartridges, for straight walled, not so much.

It's a useful tool, but has the capacity to be grossly wrong.

G20.4 / LW / Overwatch / Sevigny

Benchrst

Quote from: Pablo on June 01 2017 07:09:37 PM MDT
Quote from: Benchrst on June 01 2017 07:00:39 PM MDT
QL listed the 180 HAP @ .641 :)


While QL's predictions for #9 are known to be wonky, the usual disclaimer applies:

USE AT OWN RISK!



So did you use the default .641 or can you enter .620"?

Thanks very much!!

.620
G20.4 / LW / Overwatch / Sevigny

The_Shadow

Yep the numbers that were show for the Barnes 155 gr TAC-XP over 11.0 grains of Power Pistol was off the chart...
QuickLoads pressure was shown as 147,749 PSI but the velocity was grossly over stated at 1850 fps.

In actual test this round makes near 1500, but only about 1450 - 1480 fps depending on the barrel in use.
Like I had mentioned before, this was the scariest load I had ever dissected and documented, with the powder charge being compressed into a solid pill. :o
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
NRA Life Member
Southeast, LoUiSiAna

Benchrst

I've wondered if Bromel's vivacity test for AA9 was off, or that's just how it predicts in the 10mm.

G20.4 / LW / Overwatch / Sevigny

Pablo

The ameliorating factor for me is these are for my rifle only. It's a hearty AR barrel, mates!

Benchrst

Quote from: Pablo on June 01 2017 07:39:11 PM MDT
The ameliorating factor for me is these are for my rifle only. It's a hearty AR barrel, mates!

I had to look up ameliorating :)

I'm also ignorant regarding ARs in pistol calibers, is that blow back?
G20.4 / LW / Overwatch / Sevigny

Pablo

Quote from: Benchrst on June 01 2017 07:54:10 PM MDT
Quote from: Pablo on June 01 2017 07:39:11 PM MDT
The ameliorating factor for me is these are for my rifle only. It's a hearty AR barrel, mates!

I had to look up ameliorating :)

I'm also ignorant regarding ARs in pistol calibers, is that blow back?

This bad boy is DI. It needs all the gas it can get, in fact it really won't run on powder puff 10mm bulk ammo. I've shot tons of 10gr Longshot loads, so not so apprehensive.

Benchrst

Quote from: Pablo on June 01 2017 07:59:46 PM MDT
Quote from: Benchrst on June 01 2017 07:54:10 PM MDT
Quote from: Pablo on June 01 2017 07:39:11 PM MDT
The ameliorating factor for me is these are for my rifle only. It's a hearty AR barrel, mates!

I had to look up ameliorating :)

I'm also ignorant regarding ARs in pistol calibers, is that blow back?

This bad boy is DI. It needs all the gas it can get, in fact it really won't run on powder puff 10mm bulk ammo. I've shot tons of 10gr Longshot loads, so not so apprehensive.

Ah, we're going to have to work up some monster WAC / 155 loads for that thing :)
G20.4 / LW / Overwatch / Sevigny