10mm Terrible Choice For Personal Defense Video

Started by Intercooler, March 21 2017 04:09:11 AM MDT

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Olgo

Quote from: 4949shooter on March 22 2017 02:39:50 PM MDT
He says he has owned FIVE G29's and they weren't working for him. Sounds like the issue is with his shooting style and not the gun.

He's just a wuss. I carry my G29 with either Uw 10mm 200 XTP or Uw 9x25 125 XTP and had shot both so I'm used to them. It does get easier with practice and putting on a 21# recoil spring helps too.
How powerful is 10mm? Well, see those craters on the moon?

my_old_glock

Quote from: 4949shooter on March 22 2017 02:39:50 PM MDT
He says he has owned FIVE G29's and they weren't working for him. Sounds like the issue is with his shooting style and not the gun.


You won't find a single video of him showing a target he shot.


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happy trails

regardless of that report, I continue my search for suitable additional 10mm to supplement my Sig 220-10. 

Perhaps a CZ or something with a P35 style grip.  Recent G40 didn't work for me very well.
Prefer double stack.  Any links for a good comparison review?

4949shooter

Quote from: my_old_glock on March 23 2017 09:50:11 AM MDT
Quote from: 4949shooter on March 22 2017 02:39:50 PM MDT
He says he has owned FIVE G29's and they weren't working for him. Sounds like the issue is with his shooting style and not the gun.


You won't find a single video of him showing a target he shot.


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Interesting..

Replicant

I didn't even need to watch the video to know who this is. I don't like his style and disagree with many of his declarations on calibers and platforms.

Blades

I understand the limitations of my G29sf. I understand more my limitations with a handgun. As a lot of "gun people" who post on youtube they spew many words but lack knowledge. Fun to watch for a laugh.
--Jason--

Billy346

Yankee Marshall is a bit of an acquired taste, in the same vein as Nutnfancy.  You have to get past his eccentricity before you can hear what he has to say.
"If you simply sit still in the belief that the fire is far from your borders, then your lands will become the theater on which the tradgedy is played out."

-Frederich William, The Great Elector

Captain O

Jeez Louise! What a freaking pansy! Criminetly! The 10mm Auto is a full-on combat handgun! If you can't handle a full-power 10mm Auto, how do you respond when shooting a .41 Magnum revolver? How about a .45ACP(+P)? This guy is just a weenie! My best friend's daughter was accurately shooting a .44 Magnum (with full power loads) at the age of twelve! Goodness, gracious! Get a life, buddy!

Why don't I get you some cheese to go with that whine?
Captain O

"The Administration of Justice should be tempered by mercy, but mercy should never interfere with the true Administration of Justice".- Captain O

"Living well is the best revenge". - George Herbert

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inv136

Quote from: happy trails on March 30 2017 10:33:03 PM MDT
regardless of that report, I continue my search for suitable additional 10mm to supplement my Sig 220-10. 

Perhaps a CZ or something with a P35 style grip.  Recent G40 didn't work for me very well.
Prefer double stack.  Any links for a good comparison review?

Unfortunately, CZ does not make a 10mm. :( Otherwise, I 'd have one. And, do not confuse Tanfoglio (they're Italian) and EAA (I don't know what country they are. How can a European Armory be American?) with CZ. CZ is Czech Republic. I have no experience with EAA, but, I've seen Tanfoglio quality (or more precisely the lack there of) over 30 years ago and I was not impressed. I do have over 25 years experience with CZ and they're much better quality than any Tanfoglio. 

Mr. AR50

#24
I believe he has good intentions, but after watching a few of his videos, he seems to be a tad whiney.
He's also wrong.   :P
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin

sqlbullet

Quote from: inv136 on April 02 2017 03:06:44 PM MDT
I do have over 25 years experience with CZ and they're much better quality than any Tanfoglio.

I have to take some issue with this statement.

The quality of my EAA Witness standard model is on par with my old CZ-75B.  Similar levels of workmanship are exhibited in the two guns.  The EAA is a bit less expensive.

I have a friend that has a CZ-97, and while it functions just fine, I felt it's workmanship was a step down.  It just felt clunky and less refined than either my CZ-75 or my Witness.  And it was way behind my Elite Match, which was more cost comparable.

That said, it is true that Witness guns in 10mm have some teething pains.  This is a combination of a couple of factors. 

First, you are stuffing almost twice the horsepower into the gun (700 lbs-ft at the muzzle vs 350 lbs-ft for 9mm).  No apples to apples here as CZ hasn't even tried a 10mm in a CZ-75/97 pattern gun*. 

Second, Tanfoglio has a terrible importer here in the US, meaning when you do have an issue, you are largely on your own.

Tanfoglio 9mm handguns have a great reputation abroad, and were the basis of the IMI Jericho.  Their custom shop guns are an extremely solid value.

I can't speak to the gun you handled 30 years ago.  But having owned two Tanfoglio products, one CZ product and spent a couple of solid range sessions with another CZ product, I can say that the guns seem very comparable.  And Tanfoglio has the balls to at least try a 10mm which wins them bonus points with me.



*CZ has a platform for the 10mm in the CZ-97, but has not yet produced such a gun.  I will grant that the 10mm market is small, and that likely is the driving reason they have not produced a 10mm CZ-87.  But, I have to wonder is part of the issue is not the difficulty at adapting to the much higher energy levels of the 10mm, and the potential negative press guns that had issues may generate.  Makes me wonder if they are a 4.0 student because they carefully select their classes.

sgtbones

Good thing I am 6ft 3in.  I carry my Glock 20 or 21 more than any other Glock all year round.

Buddy10mm

Glad I'm not the only one who was a little put-off by this video.  Aside from the click-bait title (should have been "give us a better 10mm carry gun"), I'm not sure that his reasons are valid: he doesn't like safeties, he doesn't like compact 10mm's (but he likes compact .357 magnums).  They're opinions and preferences, not reasons.
That said, my greatest "irk" is that it fosters the myth of the "overpowered" 10mm, when his gripe is about the bullet launchers, not the cartridge.

Duck of Death

#28
Carry & shoot a Glock29 daily.  Even days free style odd days weak handed.  Weight 145, age 82 & lift weights 5 days a week. :D

Perhaps Yankee should MAN up. :o

Added: My shoot/carry is 13gr #9/180 cast/WLP/1.250--NOT a sissy load!!

PCFlorida

Quote from: Duck of Death on April 16 2017 02:46:52 PM MDT
Carry & shoot a Glock29 daily.  Even days free style odd days weak handed.  Weight 145, age 82 & lift weights 5 days a week. :D

Perhaps Yankee should MAN up. :o

LOL, too funny! Good for you.
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