10mm Suppressors

[PulpFiction]

Just joined the forum. The 10mm is a great round. I enjoy my Sig, Glock, Rock Island, and Tanfoglio 10mm pistols. However, having just lost part of my hearing at an indoor range wearing earmuffs, I became a suppressor convert. My 9mm and .45 pistols have threaded barrels, and as soon as The Donald and his administration change the laws, allowing easy purchase of suppressors, I'll buy them. Please discuss silencing/suppressing 10mm pistols. Are 10mm suppressors available? If so, where? Thanks. 

[Pachary]

I've got a couple of cans, but personally would not bother with subsonic 10mm.
45 or 9, maybe 40 but not 10.

I would suspect cycling issues at subsonic loading.

[PulpFiction]

Thanks, Pachary. Will research this more. Got to protect what's left of my hearing. 

[Sneed]

My son was an Air Force firearms instructor and armorer for years. All such were tested for hearing loss prior to discharge. He had little or none; all the others had a lot. He wore foam plugs in addition to muffs; none of the others did so. Worth considering.

[munchie3409]

I can always tell when people who never owned NFA make comments like how difficult it is to submit a form 1/4.  There isn't anything complicated about owning NFA items....it's just the crazy wait time currently to get your stamp from the ATF.

I wouldn't hold your breathe on HPA.  It seems logical, but what I've notice is that the government isn't very logical when it comes to "common sense" gun laws.

If you want a suppressor get one or five, I just wouldn't hold out for HPA.

Even if you don't load subsonic loads...suppressors have other advantages other than sound.  You get reduced flash and it will also reduce recoil as well.  People just think suppressors are for sound and that's just not the case.  Any suppressor for a 45ACP will work on a 10mm.

[PulpFiction]

Thanks, Sneed and munchie3409. My opinion now is that ranges, especially indoor ranges, should require shooters to wear both plugs and muffs. Some ranges allow guys to wear either, but don't require both. This would protect shooters' hearing, and ranges from lawsuits. At outdoor ranges when all shooters are using suppressors, they could be allowed to use plugs, muffs, both, or none. Let's support the HPA. 

[Steve_in_SEMich]

For the same reason I use a suppressor on a centerfire rifle, I use a Silencerco Octane to lessen the amount of noise while hunting or sometimes for a quick shot or two with the 10mm.  Suppressing a .308 round traveling 2500fps to a level of an unsuppressed hi-velocity .22lr is a good thing.  Ditto for the 10mm.  I don't have any fancy decibel meters to accurately measure the reduction, but the 1200fps 10mm round is significantly quieter using a can vs. without.  As quiet as a 900fps .45acp?  No.  But it is quieter. 

Buy one that can be used for smaller diameter cartridges simply by changing the piston and you've made a good investment.

[Pablo]

I love suppressors, don't get me wrong.

I don't get why I have to be the guy next to the dude with a 5.56 SBR at the range..........the hot side gasses out some  of the designs with full power ammo are NOT GOOD.

[sqlbullet]

I agree Pablo.  Being next to one of those guys is not alot of fun.

OTOH, I love my 7.5" AR pistol.  So much fun to shoot.  And just right for starting a nine or ten year old on AR's. 

[inv136]

I have a rifle suppressor and a pistol suppressor. The rifle suppressor is an AAC 240SD which I use on all of my various rifles/calibers and it is the best suppressor that I have. I can comfortably use this suppressor and any of my rifles (.308 down to 5.56) without the need to use earmuffs or ear plugs and I have never used any subsonic ammo. I've read the complaints of people that say the supersonic crack of regular factory loaded non-subsonic ammo is uncomfortable. That is not the case with my suppressor. You only hear a mild crack as the bullet travels downrange. However, it is not comfortable to use on an indoor range because the blast is magnified by the concrete walls and floor.

I have a pistol suppressor, a Silencerco Osprey which is  a lot louder than my rifle suppressor on a .308 rifle using factory supersonic ammo. It is so loud, I have to use earplugs when firing a Glock 17 on an outdoor range. I don't understand why the pistol suppressor is so loud when compared to my rifle suppressor. But, it is.

Your question was about 10mm suppressors. I have read about and am interested in the Dead Air Suppressors Ghost M .45 ACP suppressor. It is supposed to be rated to handle 10mm. Also, it allows the use of (optional) "wipes." "Wipes" are solid rubber wafers that can be placed inside the end of the suppressors designed to accept "wipes." That "wipe" seals off the end of the suppressor, trapping the gases inside the suppressor and reducing the decibel of the blast even more than just the suppressor baffles that reduce the blast decibel level. The bullet passes through the "wipes" and will cut out the "wipe" after about one magazine of rounds fired before it would need to be replaced. The "wipe" is just one method to slightly increase the efficiency of the suppressor. Another method is by putting water or gel inside the suppressor before firing the weapon. The water or gel will also aid in reducing the decibel level of the blast. Water or gel will get shot out after several rounds fired through the suppressor. 

If you've heard of the Ingram MAC 10 submachinegun, there was a Sionic's brand suppressor that was designed especially for the MAC 10. The Sionic's suppressor incorporated "wipes," which helped reduce the muzzle blast. 

[lagarto]

I have several suppressors that I have purchase over the past 20 years. 9mm, 5.56, & .45. The .45 is a B&T, it is suitable for an H-K Tactical or Glock 21. I also have a recoil adapter to use on a Sig 220. Dry, with 45 ball ammo it sounds like a nail gun. I would expect the same out of a 180 Gr. 10MM load.

I have tried to get a 10MM glock barrel threaded for this unit but none of the mainline barrel people make a glock barrel with left hand, metric threads.

The 5.56 can is an advanced armament unit. It is military grade, made out of Monel & Inconel and designed to be used with full auto weapons. Using 55gr  standard ball round load, it sounds like 22 LR round. You have the ballistic crack, but not the muzzle blast or flash.

Under current NFA rules, you own these things for life. The cost of the tax stamp to transfer one makes it uneconomical to sell.

[blaster]

I have an Omega .30 can that I use on my 300 Black out rifles and my 7mm Rem mag bolt gun. the sub sonic ammo is real quiet in the Black Out weapons. (AR 15 s & Mini 14) but with super sonic ammo and the suppressor, even with the 7mm mag, there is no need for any ear muffs! sounds about like a .22 l.r