9mm Ammo Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown

[The_Shadow]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Magtech Bonded 124 gr BJHP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1165 fps
Muzzle Energy: 374 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Companhia Brasileira de Cartuchos  CBC – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5720"/Dia. 0.3545": 124 gr. JHP
HP depth 0.2640" / HP dia 0.1000" (tapered) / Mouth 0.2025" (jacket folded inward)
Actual weight 124.2 grains (dimpled flat base) Crimp line 0.3530"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1120"
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color (green sealer crimped primer)
Case: Diameter 0.3865" Crimp Diameter 0.3775" Length 0.7475"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? Magtech ?  6.0 grains *
*(reason for ? marks is Magtech does make their own powders) (similar to Power Pistol in performance)

[The_Shadow]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Speer Lawman 147gr TMJ (provided by Intercooler 7/2015)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 985 fps
Muzzle Energy: 317 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Speer – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6490"/Dia. 0.3550": Speer 147gr. TMJ Actual weight 146.4 grains  Flat Nose Tip 0.1750" (concave base) crimp line 0.3550"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1220"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3885" Crimp Diameter 0.3765" Length 0.7485"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: BE-86 4.8 grains *
*(has soft translucent grey color off white flakes) (matches the one from April/30/2015)

[The_Shadow]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Poly Case Ammo ARX 74 grain CPM (provided by Intercooler 7/2015
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1550 fps
Muzzle Energy: 395 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6590"/Dia. 0.3550": 74 grain CPM
Actual weigh 72.0 grains  (flat base) Crimp Line 0.3540"
(CPM - The non-expanding ARX® is injection molded from a specially blended copper/polymer matrix)
C.O.A.L.: 1.1270"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickle color
Case: Diameter 0.3855" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" (light) Length 0.7480"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? Silhouette ? 6.0 grains











http://www.polycaseammo.com/products/inceptor-arx

[The_Shadow]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Sig Sauer 147gr Speer V-Crown JHP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 985 fps
Muzzle Energy: 316 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: SIG – Nickel
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6545"/Dia. 0.3550": Sig 147gr. V-Crown JHP
HP depth 0.1050" / *tiny secondary 0.1930" / HP 0.1800" tapered cavity / HP mouth 0.2535"
Actual weight 147.2 grains  (flat base) (has shallow cannelure 0.3515") crimp line 0.3490"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1030"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3865" Crimp Diameter 0.3750" Length 0.7520"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: BE-86 5.0 grains **
** (fine flat flake with lighter tan colored slightly larger flakes identifiers)
* (tiny secondary hole deeper than the main cavity 0.1930")

[The_Shadow]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Fiocchi 89 gr Semi Jacket Plastic Round Nose Frangible (supplied by Intercooler 7/2015)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: fps (tested at 1420)
Muzzle Energy: ft. lbs (est 398 ft lbs)
Brass Make/Headstamp: GFL(Giulio Fiocchi, Lecco, Italy) – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6820"/Dia. 0.3545": 89 gr. SJPRN
Projectile has a 0.2800" plastic rounded pellet filling the brass cased sleeve (black sealer to hold)
Actual weight 89.4 grains (concaved exposed lead base) Crimp line 0.3525"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1400"
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3870" Crimp Diameter 0.3765" Length 0.7480"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ?  S.I.P.E. ?  5.8 grains
*(rectangular cut flakes)

[Pctechdude]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Remington 124 gr +P Golden Saber BGSHP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1180 fps
Muzzle Energy: 384 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: R-P 9mm Luger +P – Nickel
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.577"/Dia. 0.3550": 124 gr. BGSHP
HP depth 0.1180" / HP cavity 0.1800" / HP mouth 0.2000"
Actual weight 122.8 grains (flat base) Crimp line 0.3480"
C.O.A.L.: 1.123"
Primer: Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3865" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" Length 0.7480"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  ? Silhouette 6.0gr *
(very fine flatten ball)

Please excuse the weights listed in the comparison photos, The first two I originally pulled I lost powder due to hammering a little hard. The correct charge weight is 6grains.







Andy, I copied the pictures to my postimage account due to photobuckets TOS change, didn't want to lose your work.

[The_Shadow]

Thanks for posting Andy, these pull downs do take some careful measurements, observations and time to gather and put in the format to be concise, then for me at least uploading the pictures to Photobucket on my limited bandwidth.
Don't put too much into the 0.3 or 0.4 grain differences as loaded by factory and what is shown in the loading books, the velocities can and do vary some.
Reasons for variation can be seating depths, barrel used for the testing, pressure testing setup, being used, primer being use and fudge factors as printed in the ads.
The other variation can also be slight changes in deterrents and coatings, if the Big commercial ammo companies specifies things like low flash, specific performance characteristic.
But I don't think that these are as prevalent these days as the non-canister runs like Winchester / St. Marks was doing years ago. 
Most of the modern ammo seems to be very close to off the shelf canister grade products.  Lot to lot consistencies have be much improved too.
One thing that I complain about is the companies which are not listing pressure values these days like Alliant, which is very sad.  I like to know what pressure was for a given test.
Thanks! 

[Intercooler]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Remington 124 gr +P Golden Saber BGSHP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1180 fps
Muzzle Energy: 384 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: R-P 9mm Luger +P – Nickel
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.577"/Dia. 0.3550": 124 gr. BGSHP
HP depth 0.1180" / HP cavity 0.1800" / HP mouth 0.2000"
Actual weight 122.8 grains (flat base) Crimp line 0.3480"
C.O.A.L.: 1.123"
Primer: Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3865" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" Length 0.7480"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  ? Silhouette 6.0gr *
(very fine flatten ball)

Please excuse the weights listed in the comparison photos, The first two I originally pulled I lost powder due to hammering a little hard. The correct charge weight is 6grains.

The one I had was #5. Did they change the powder or.....

[The_Shadow]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Yavex 115 gr FMJ (brass) (supplied by Intercooler)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1150 fps
Muzzle Energy: 338 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: YVX – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5900"/Dia. 0.3545": 115 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 114.6 grains (concaved exposed lead base) Crimp line 0.3535"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1540"  (black sealant)
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color (green sealant) (crimped)
Case: Diameter 0.3875" Crimp Diameter 0.3750" Length 0.7490"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? Ramshot True Blue ? 6.6 grains *
* (mix spherical & flatten ball) Ammo is an import through 4t USA LLC is primary distributor.

[The_Shadow]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacturer: Nosler Tip Bonded Defense 124 gr +P Nosler  JHP (supplied by Intercooler 12-2015)
Ballistics Information: 9mm +P
Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps
Muzzle Energy: 396 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Nosler NOS – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6720"/Dia. 0.3545": Nosler  124 JHP
HP cavity (tapered) / HP mouth 0.2380"
Actual weight 123.6 grains (flat base) Crimp line 0.3505"  (six segments)
C.O.A.L.: 1.0990" 
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color (clear sealer)
Case: Diameter 0.3865" Crimp Diameter 0.3750" Length 0.7495"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  Bullseye  4.8 grains

[Intercooler]

Looks like Power Pistol huh?

[The_Shadow]

Power Pistol and BE-86 are a derivatives of Bullseye...

[Intercooler]

What distinguishes them from each other?

[The_Shadow]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Perfecta 115gr Bronze FMJ (Jan 14 2016)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1140 fps (1100)
Muzzle Energy: 331 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Perfecta – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5895" - 0.6000"/Dia. 0.3545": 115 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 113.4 - 115.0 grains (concaved exposed lead base) Crimp line 0.3475"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1480" - 1.1570"     
Primer: Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3870" Crimp Diameter 0.3780" Length 0.7495"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? WSF ? 4.8 grains * (different from Sept 5 2014)
(flattened flake)  Made in Italy, and distributed by "Tulammo USA"

10 pulled that IC sent
Perfecta 9mm 115 grain FMJ pull downs  casing length 0.7495" Crimp light
     COAL   Charge Wt   Bullet Wt   
1   1.1535   4.8 gr      114.6 gr
2   1.1515   4.8 gr      113.6 gr
3   1.1515   4.8 gr      115.0 gr
4   1.1570   5.0 gr      114.8 gr
5   1.1525   4.8 gr      114.6 gr
6   1.1500   4.8 gr      113.4 gr
7   1.1525   4.8 gr      114.0 gr
8   1.1500   4.8 gr      114.0 gr
9   1.1480   4.8 gr      114.0 gr
10 1.1515   4.8 gr      114.6 gr

[The_Shadow]

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Remington UMC 115 gr FMJ MC
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1145 fps  (doubt these make the numbers)(more like 1050 fps)(Sub Sonic maybe)
Muzzle Energy: 335 ft. lbs (more like 281 fps)
Brass Make/Headstamp: Remington – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5575"/Dia. 0.3550": 115 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 115.2 grains (flat base) (exposed lead base) Crimp line 0.3550"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1075" / 1.1115"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3855" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" Length 0.7505"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Tight Group 3.6 grains *

*(also no powder data shown makes those numbers using only 3.6 grains of any powder)