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Started by The_Shadow, November 21 2012 05:36:00 PM MST

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The_Shadow

#240
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: GECO Hexagon 124 gr JHP (provided by Intercooler 4/29/2015)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1181 fps
Muzzle Energy: 382 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: GECO – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6175" / * 0.6075"Dia. 0.3540": 124 gr. JHP
HP depth 0.1700" / HP cavity 0.1235" / HP Mouth 0.1600"
Actual weight 122.8 grains (flat base) (Six long folded nose segments)
C.O.A.L.: 1.1275"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color (NATO-approved SINTOX primer containing no heavy metals)
Case: Diameter 0.3860" Crimp Diameter 0.3765" Length 0.7470"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  ? Silhouette ?  5.6 grains *
*(base of bullet has a bulge) **(very fine flatten ball)







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The_Shadow

#241
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Sig Sauer 115gr  V-Crown JHP (provided by Intercooler 4/29/2015)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1185 fps
Muzzle Energy: 359 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: SIG – Nickel
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5200"/Dia. 0.3545": Sig 115gr. V-Crown JHP
HP depth 0.0775" / *tiny secondary hole / HP 0.1580" tapered cavity / HP mouth 0.2570"
Actual weight 115.2 grains  (flat base) (has shallow cannelure 0.3525") crimp line 0.3490"
C.O.A.L.: 1.0990"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3860" Crimp Diameter 0.3765" Length 0.7520"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: BE-86  6.4 grains **
** (fine flat flake with lighter tan colored slightly larger flakes identifiers)
* (tiny secondary hole deeper than the main cavity too tiny to probe)









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The_Shadow

#242
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Speer Lawman 115gr TMJ #53650 (2014)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps
Muzzle Energy: 368 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Speer – Brass (14)
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5695"/Dia. 0.3550": Speer 115gr. TMJ Actual weight 115.2 grains   (concave base)(black sealant) crimp line 0.3545"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1520"
Primer: Small pistol Nickel color (Range Pick up)
Case: Diameter 0.3880" Crimp Diameter 0.3760" Length 0.7495"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  Accurate Arms #5 7.2 grains *
*(has some of the black sealant in the powder)

Accurate Arms #5 115 SIERRA FMJ
6.3grains @ 1,155 fps 
6.7grains @ 1,219 fps 38,425 PSI COL 1.100"







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Intercooler

Where did you get the Speer TMJ? That's a different one than I have and different powder.

The_Shadow

Found it on the police range so I decided to do a pull down of it.  Casing is stamped 14 for 2014.  At first I thought it was Silhouette, but the charge weight is too high for it to be Silhouette.  Looking at the AA# 5 +P data shown, it is even higher than that but the COL is longer and the bullet has a concave base.
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The_Shadow

Part number may be different, but most all of the Speer Lawman 115gr TMJ show the same number. The only change was the powder and the charge weight.
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Intercooler

Hmmm... My box was labeled 53615 and had BE-86. I wonder why they use two different part numbers for the same ammo?

The_Shadow

I see what you are saying they could be the 53615, as the 53650 is shown as the same when I was looking for the advertised data...



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Intercooler

Could it have been when they switched to the new BE-86 they changed the part number as well.

The_Shadow

#250
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Magtech +P+ 115 gr JHP (supplied by Intercooler 5/6/2015)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1328 fps
Muzzle Energy: 451 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: CBC – Nickle +P+
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5500"/Dia. 0.3545": 115 gr. JHP
HP depth 0.2645" / HP dia 0.1170" (tapered) / Mouth 0.2000"
Actual weight 114.8 grains (dimpled flat base) Crimp line 0.3530"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1010"
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color (symbol on primer)
Case: Diameter 0.3855" Crimp Diameter 0.3785" Length 0.7465"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? Magtech ?  5.8 grains *
*(reason for ? marks is Magtech does make their own powders) (similar to Power Pistol)







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The_Shadow

#251
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Team Never Quit Marcus Luttrell 115 gr SCHP (supplied by Intercooler 5/6/2015)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1065 fps
Muzzle Energy: 289 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6820"/Dia. 0.3540": 115 gr. SCHP
HP depth 0.2510" / HP dia 0.1750" / Mouth 0.1200"
Actual weight 113.8 grains (dimpled flat base) Crimp line 0.3520"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1210"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickle color
Case: Diameter 0.3855" Crimp Diameter 0.3765" Length 0.7485"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? Silhouette ?  5.0 grains *







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The_Shadow

#252
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: OATH Ammo HALO 135 grain RN Solid  (provided by Intercooler 5/6/2015
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps
Muzzle Energy: 527 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.7285"/Dia. 0.3550": 135 grain RN Solid
Actual weigh 130.6 grains  (bevel base) 1-friction reducing bands Diameter 0.3370"
(100% copper projectiles and they will be lighter than the lead counterpart so they will be long for weight like Barnes and others.  They also appear to have power bands where the entire projectile is not contacting the rifling; this will reduce frictional surface contact which can translate to speed increases)
C.O.A.L.: 1.1450"
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3855" Crimp Diameter 0.3775" (light) Length 0.7480"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? WSF ? 4.2 grains

OATH – Operational American Tactical Hardware







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The_Shadow

#253
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Hot Shot Elite 115gr FMJ # AM1904
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: ?? fps (est 1100 fps)
Muzzle Energy: ?? ft. lbs (est 308 ft lbs)
Brass Make/Headstamp: Hot Shot – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5670"/Dia. 0.3550": 115 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 115.4 grains (concaved exposed lead base) Crimp line 0.3525"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1580" 
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3885" Crimp Diameter 0.3750" Length 0.7505"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  D036-01 ?  5.4-5.6 grains*
(scale flashed both weights and maybe 5.5 grains)
HOTSHOT made in Bosnia-Herzegovina
Century International Arms







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The_Shadow

#254
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Master Cartridge 125gr FMJ (reman)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: ?? fps (est 1020 fps)
Muzzle Energy: ?? ft. lbs (est 286 ft lbs)
Brass Make/Headstamp: Western Cartridge Company WCC – Brass (+2011)*
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6195"/Dia. 0.3545": 125 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 124.0 grains (plated hollow base) Crimp line 0.3500"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1290" 
Primer: Small Pistol Nickle color (symbol A on primer)
Case: Diameter 0.3870" Crimp Diameter 0.3760" Length 0.7500"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  AutoComp  4.8 grains *
*(probably previous NATO loading)







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