9mm Ammo Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown

Started by The_Shadow, November 21 2012 05:36:00 PM MST

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The_Shadow

Yea, the 115 Ex-Star & the 124 FMJ they are using the same powder.  Its what seems to be WSF powder, but these foreign companies may have their powders tailored to their own specifications with or without deterrents or flash retardants.
The IMI company although not stated, probably makes their own powders but they may also import powders for the needs.
http://www.imi-israel.com/home/doc.aspx?mCatID=63195&mCatID2=0

Just like the sheer amount of 9mm ammo, there are so many powders available to work with the 9mm cartridge.

these 4 companies, Magtech, CBC, Sellier & Bellot and MEN comprise the CBC Ammo Group. That pretty white looking Magtech powder, proprietary to Magtech, (not sold to the public, even though the sell primers and bullet and brass) that I have ever seen.  Based on the velocity and charge weights used, it tracks the Power Pistol powder performance.

The 9mm case has only so much room to work with and is why we see variations in seating depths with different bullet styles.
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The_Shadow

#211
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Priv Partizan Ammo PPU 147 gr JHP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity:950 fps
Muzzle Energy: 284 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp:  PPU - Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6280"/Dia. 0.3545": JHP 147gr. 
HP depth 0.1580" / HP dia 0.0650" / Mouth 0. 2220""
Actual weight 146.2 grains (exposed lead base) crimp line 0.3535"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1095"
Primer: Small Pistol Primer Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3875" Crimp Diameter 0.3755" Length 0.7500"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: square cut flakes gray color? 4.6 grains (proprietary powder)?
(Nobel Sport A0)(PSB5)(SIPE) (Vectan) (VihtaVuori N3SH) (VihtaVuori N3SL) (FM Z-50)?







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#212
Same powder again. It says 147gr up there  :-X

The_Shadow

#213
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Fiocchi 115gr JHP 9AP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1170 fps
Muzzle Energy: 352 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: GFL(Giulio Fiocchi, Lecco, Italy) – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5260"/Dia. 0.3550": 115 gr. JHP
HP depth 0.2235" / HP dia 0.0650" tapered / Mouth 0.1960"
Actual weight 115.2 grains (stamped base) Crimp line 0.3540"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1200" 
Primer: Small Pistol primer Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3870" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" Length 0.7480"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  ? American Select ?  5.4 grains *
(small flake little thicker than Bullseye) (I DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD PICTURE OF AMERICAN SELECT)
The load data suggest it is in between Bullseye & Power Pistol







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#214
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Fiocchi 124gr FMJ 9APB
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1180 fps
Muzzle Energy: 425 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: GFL(Giulio Fiocchi, Lecco, Italy) – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6020"/Dia. 0.3545": 124 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 123.0 grains (concaved exposed lead base) Crimp line 0.3525"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1290" 
Primer: Small Pistol primer Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3870" Crimp Diameter 0.3755" Length 0.7490"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  ? American Select ?  5.4 grains *
(small flake little thicker than Bullseye) (it could be Power Pistol)







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#215
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Fiocchi  Extrema 147gr Hornady XTP PB25
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 950 fps
Muzzle Energy: 294 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: GFL(Giulio Fiocchi, Lecco, Italy) – Nickel
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6610"/Dia. 0.3550": Hornady 147gr. XTP
HP depth 0.2020" / HP dia 0.1340"(tapered) / HP mouth 0.2230"  six  segments
Actual weight 146.8 grains   (beveled flat base) crimp line 0.3535"
C.O.A.L.: 1.0800"
Primer: Small Pistol primer Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3865" Crimp Diameter 0.3755" Length 0.7500"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Power Pistol  4.2 grains







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#216
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Georgia Arms 9mm +P 115gr Speer Gold Dot JHP
Ballistics Information: 9mm +P
Muzzle Velocity: 1250 fps
Muzzle Energy: 398 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line - Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5240"/Dia. 0.3555": Speer Gold Dot 115gr. JHP
HP depth 0.1400" / HP dia 0.1700" tapered / HP mouth 0.22600"
Actual weight 114.6 grains  concave base / crimp line 0.3535
C.O.A.L.: 1.1000"
Primer: Small Pistol primer Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3855" Crimp Diameter 0.3750" Length 0.7500"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  ? AutoComp ?  6.0 grains*
(powder looks like AutoComp but looks smaller kernel sizes)







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The_Shadow

#218
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Speer Lawman 115gr TMJ #53650
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps
Muzzle Energy: 368 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Speer – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5690"/Dia. 0.3550": Speer 115gr. TMJ Actual weight 114.8 grains   (concave base) crimp line 0.3545"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1520"
Primer: Small pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3875" Crimp Diameter 0.3755" Length 0.7495"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: BE-86 6.4 grains *
(has soft translucent grey color off white flakes)







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#219
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Winchester 115 gr SilverTip STHP 1/19/2015
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1180 fps
Muzzle Energy: 355 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Winchester – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5380"/Dia. 0.3550": 115 gr. STHP
HP depth 0.2800" / HP cavity 0.1525" tapered" / HP mouth 0.2175"
Actual weight 115.4 grains (flat base) Crimp line 0.3475"
C.O.A.L.: 1.0880"
Primer: Small Pistol primer Nickle  color
Case: Diameter 0.3870" Crimp Diameter 0.3750" Length 0.7500"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  ? non canister  540 ?  7.0 grains *
(very fine flatten ball) ? (very close to AA#5 data) (Action Pistol or Silhouette)







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The old Silvertip pull-down showed more FPS and 6.2gr's. Is this a different powder?

The_Shadow

#221
I think it was, let me go back an look at them...
Older from Sept 2013


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#222
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Cor-Bon 147 gr +P  Hornady XTP (provided by IC)
Ballistics Information: 9mm +P
Muzzle Velocity: 1100 fps
Muzzle Energy: 394 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Remington RP– Brass (has knurl line)
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6580"/Dia. 0.3545": Hornady 147 XTP
HP depth 0.1200" / HP cavity (tapered) 0.1130" / HP mouth 0.2375"
Actual weight 147.4 grains (tapered flat base) Crimp line 0.3510"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1300"  / 1.1300"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color (some red sealer)
Case: Diameter 0.3855" Crimp Diameter 0.3750" Length 0.7490"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  AA#7  7.8 / 7.8 grains











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#223
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Parabellum Research PBR 115 gr Montana Gold JHP (provided by IC)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1245 fps
Muzzle Energy: 395 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5485"/Dia. 0.3550": MG 115 JHP
HP depth 0.0990" / HP cavity (tapered) 0.0970" / HP mouth 0.1900"
Actual weight 115.0 grains (concave base) Crimp line 0.3550"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1065" 
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3860" Crimp Diameter 0.3765" Length 0.7490"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  Power Pistol  6.2 grains







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#224
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: LAX 115gr plated FMJ
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1128 fps
Muzzle Energy: 324 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: LAX – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5560"/Dia. 0.3540": 115 gr. FMJ plated
Actual weight 114.8 grains (flat base) Crimp line 0.3510" black sealer
C.O.A.L.: 1.1410" 
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3895" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" Length 0.7480"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  Power Pistol  5.4 grains







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