9mm Ammo Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown

The_Shadow · October 28 2013 01:51:51 PM MDT

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Copper Only Projectile COP 115gr SCHP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1180 fps
Muzzle Energy: 355 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line – Brass +P
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6790"/Dia. 0.3545": COP 115 gr. SCHP
HP depth 0.2520" / HP dia 0.1750"
Actual weight 115.0 grains (flat base) Crimp line 0.3535"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1215" / 1.1250"
Primer: Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3860" Crimp Diameter 0.3750" Length 0.7490"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? AutoComp ? 4.8 grains *
(very fine flatten ball)
Tested by Intercooler 02/01/2014; COP 115gr All Copper +P EAA Limited 4.75" 1181, 1204. Average = 1192.5 FPS/ 363 LBS

The_Shadow · October 31 2013 06:51:19 PM MDT

I updated the Magtech 9mm data, as I reviewed the Magtech web site I read that they actually make there own smokeless powder propellants in house... ${$default_cool_smiley}$

QuoteOne of our major advantages is that our factory is fully vertically integrated with its own powder plant, primer plant, and the brass and bullet processing is completed in the ammunition plant to ensure the world's finest ammunition. While other ammunition companies rely on outside vendors to supply various components, Magtech houses all of these processes inside our ISO 9001 Quality System Certified Facility.

Intercooler · November 10 2013 11:45:46 AM MST

I updated the Underwood (Clays) with 4.75" data from yesterday. Also plugged in the powder data where possible.

The_Shadow · December 06 2013 09:41:53 AM MST

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: GECO 115gr FMJ
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1280 fps
Muzzle Energy: 421 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: GECO – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5790"/Dia. 0.3540": 115 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 114.6 grains (concaved exposed lead base) Crimp line 0.3525" black sealer
C.O.A.L.: 1.1560"
Primer: Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3856" Crimp Diameter 0.3765" Length 0.7480"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? ? 5.6 grains * (very fine flatten ball)
Geco is made by the European conglomerate RUAG, which also makes RWS.
Tested by Intercooler 02/01/2014; Geco 115gr FMJ Springfield XD 4" Average = 1153 FPS/ 340 LBS

The_Shadow · December 06 2013 10:15:20 AM MST

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Hot Shot 115gr FMJ
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1140 fps
Muzzle Energy: 331 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Hot Shot – Steel
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6060"/Dia. 0.3545": 115 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 113.4 grains (concaved exposed lead base) Crimp line 0.3525"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1585"
Primer: Brass color (red sealer)(berdan)
Case: Diameter 0.3885" Crimp Diameter 0.3760" Length 0.7490"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? VihtaVuori N320 ? 4.6 grains *
(short cut stick powder) HOTSHOT made in Bosnia-Herzegovina
Tested by Intercooler 02/01/2014; Hot Shot 115gr FMJ Springfield XD 4" Average = 1092 FPS/ 305 FPS

Intercooler · December 06 2013 10:57:05 AM MST

That plus sign on the Geco bottom is interesting! Wonder if that helps make it so accurate?

The_Shadow · December 06 2013 11:00:03 AM MST

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Fiocchi 115gr FMJ 9AP (2nd Pull)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1250 fps
Muzzle Energy: 400 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: GFL(Giulio Fiocchi, Lecco, Italy) – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5920"/Dia. 0.3540": 115 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 114.6 grains (concaved exposed lead base) Crimp line 0.3525"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1560"
Primer: Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3856" Crimp Diameter 0.3765" Length 0.7480"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? ? 5.0 grains *
(very fine flatten ball)(found a few red specks maybe from primer sealant)
Tested by Intercooler 02/01/2014; Fiocchi 115gr FMJ 9AP Springfield XD 4" Average = 1130 FPS/ 326 LBS
Tested by Intercooler 02/01/2014; Fiocchi 115gr FMJ 9AP EAA Limited 4.75" 1162, 1139. Average = 1150.5 FPS/ 338 LBS

The_Shadow · December 06 2013 11:08:13 AM MST

That's just the way the bullet forming plug is shaped, but it is shaped like a X for X-ring! LOL ${$default_wink_smiley}$

Intercooler · December 06 2013 11:28:00 AM MST

Geco has turned into my favorite target round in 9mm.

The_Shadow · December 06 2013 12:06:05 PM MST

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Underwood 124 gr Nosler +P+ JHP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1300 fps
Muzzle Energy: 465 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Speer - Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5445"/Dia. 0.3545": Nosler 124gr. JHP
HP Depth 0.1875" / HP dia tapered 0.850 / mouth 0.1915"
Actual weight 124.2 grains
C.O.A.L.: 1.0840"
Primer: Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3875" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" Length 0.7455"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? ? 6.4 grains
(smaller flattened ball powder than LS silvery color Wincheste Auto Comp powder
Tested November 30th, 2013 by IC
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1366, 1385, 1369, 1397, 1370, 1381, 1380. Average = 1387 FPS/ 530 LBS
Powder was replaced with known AutoComp charge Underwood 124gr +P+ Nosler
Tested February 22nd 2014 by IC, Eaa Limited 4.75" 1397 FPS/ 537 LBS

Modified to add test data

The_Shadow · December 06 2013 01:42:00 PM MST

This is the same powder that was also in the Underwood Speer 115 GD +P+.

The Underwood 124 Nosler +P+ JHP round would make 161 power factor based on the formula bullet wt. in grains X velocity divided by 1000.

Reading here shows some guys loading the Winchester AutoComp powder and some are getting to higher power factors with 7.2 & 7.4 grains; http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=109026

Intercooler · December 06 2013 02:58:12 PM MST

So COP and Underwood are using the same powder?

The_Shadow · December 06 2013 03:05:48 PM MST

It sure looks like that they are the same, but I would have to test to be absolutely positive.
BTW, I put the Underwood 115 +P+ and the 124 +P+ powders right next to each other....

Intercooler · December 06 2013 03:10:46 PM MST

You will have two more here soon. I ordered Kevin's new 115gr Nosler +P+ and the 147gr GD +P+.

The_Shadow · December 29 2013 02:24:08 PM MST

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Underwood 115gr Nosler JHP +P+
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1500 fps
Muzzle Energy: 574 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Speer - Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5155"/Dia. 0.3545": Nosler 115gr. JHP
HP depth 0.1965" / HP dia 0.1020" / HP mouth 0.2000"
Actual weight 115.0 grains
C.O.A.L.: 1.0535"
Primer: Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3875" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" light / Length 0.7475"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? AutoComp ? 6.6 grains
Tested by Intercooler 02/01/2014; Underwood 115gr Nosler JHP +P+ Springfield XD 4" Average = 1422 FPS/ 512 LBS