9mm Ammo Factory/Commercial Ammo pulldown

The_Shadow · September 05 2014 09:48:48 PM MDT

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Liberty Civil Defense 50 gr Fragmenting HP +P
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 2000 fps
Muzzle Energy: 444 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: LIBERTY – Nickle +P
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5010"/Dia. 0.3550": 50 gr. FHP
Actual weight 50.4 grains (Lathe Turned)(lead free)(flat base) Crimp line 0.3480" (turned 0.1200" up from base)
HP Depth 0.4100" / HP Cavity 0.1700" tapered / HP mouth 0.2225"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1315"
Primer: Nickle color
Case: Diameter 0.3870" Crimp Diameter 0.3775" (medium crimp) Length 0.7460"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? Tite Group ? 7.6 grains *
(Specialty round that is extra light so it hard to profile)

The_Shadow · October 23 2014 07:30:38 PM MDT

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: MagSafe 45 gr SWAT fragmenting JHP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 2300 fps
Muzzle Energy: 528 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Remington – Brass +P
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5165"/Dia. 0.3550": MagSafe 45 gr. Frag JHP
HP depth 0.0950" / HP dia 0.1860" / Mouth 0.2325"
Actual weight 45.0 grains (flat base) (epoxy filled) Crimp line 0.3535"
C.O.A.L.: 1.0875"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickle color
Case: Diameter 0.3860" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" Length 0.7490"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? AA#7 ? 11.6 grains (compressed)*

*
9MM SWAT SWAT LOAD NEW 45 2300 FPS, 528 FT LBS OF ENERGY $22.95 BEST HOME DEFENSE LOAD DO NOT USE IN SPRINGFIELD XD PISTOLS

Intercooler · October 23 2014 07:40:45 PM MDT

Where did the Springfield XD warning come from? I did ${$default_grin_smiley}$ I wonder if that is a mistake and they actually meant XDm?

The_Shadow · October 23 2014 07:54:11 PM MDT

It was in the ads on MagSafe site under pricing and specs...http://magsafeonline.com/prices_specs.php

The_Shadow · October 23 2014 09:22:40 PM MDT

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Freedom Munitions 115gr Hornady XTP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps
Muzzle Energy: 367 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: IMT – Brass (interior is stepped)
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5410"/Dia. 0.3545": Hornady 115 gr. XTP
HP depth 0.1200" / HP dia 0.0980" (tapered) / Mouth 0.1725"
Actual weight 114.8 grains (flat base) Crimp line 0.3545"
C.O.A.L.: 1.0780"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickle color
Case: Diameter 0.3860" Crimp Diameter 0.3785" Length 0.7495"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Auto Comp 6.4 grains

Intercooler · October 24 2014 02:55:17 AM MDT

Kevin's 9mm powder?

The_Shadow · October 24 2014 11:08:36 AM MDT

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Freedom Munitions 124gr FMJ plated (supplied by Intercooler)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1050 fps
Muzzle Energy: 281 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: IMT – Brass (interior is stepped)
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5895"/Dia. 0.3540": 124 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 124.4 grains (flat base) Crimp line 0.3535"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1530"
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3875" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" Length 0.7455"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Winchester WSF 4.6 grains *
(silvery flatten ball)

The_Shadow · October 24 2014 01:14:30 PM MDT

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Federal Ammo (Cal9115) 115gr FMJ RN plated (supplied by Inercooler)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1180 fps
Muzzle Energy: 355 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: FEDERAL FC – Aluminum (NR-not reloadable)
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5600"/Dia. 0.3545": 115 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 114.4 grains (flat base) Crimp line 0.3535"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1440"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickle color (standard flash hole)
Case: Diameter 0.3880" Crimp Diameter 0.3770" Length 0.7500"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Hodgdon Titegroup 4.6 grains *
(flatten ball)

The_Shadow · October 24 2014 02:03:06 PM MDT

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: ZQI 123gr FMJ NATO (new box) (supplied by Intercooler)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1200 fps
Muzzle Energy: 396 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: ZQI – Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6180"/Dia. 0.3545": 123 gr. FMJ
Actual weight 123.4 grains (concaved exposed lead base)(black sealer) Crimp line 0.3535"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1540"
Primer: Brass color (green sealer crimped)
Case: Diameter 0.3885" Crimp Diameter 0.3760" Length 0.7475"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? VV N340 ? 5.4 grains *
* (very fine golden rod)

ZQI 123gr NATO New Box
Springfield XD 4" 1214, 1207, 1212, 1206, 1221. Average = 1212 FPS/ 401 LBS
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1255, 1255, 1253, 1249, 1248. Average = 1252 FPS/ 428 LBS

Intercooler · October 24 2014 06:01:24 PM MDT

Did you catch the ZQI switched to a different powder and less? I have to look back at both results and see what I got!

Also,

I think the Freedom 115gr powder isn't the same as Kevin's. It's not much less powder and not near the velocity.

Intercooler · October 24 2014 06:03:33 PM MDT

The ZQI results were about identical with the two different powders and charge weights.

The_Shadow · October 24 2014 07:45:50 PM MDT

Yes it is easy to use various powers to achieve similar velocities...

Did you notice that the Freedom Munitions brass had a step inside, it has been talked about by many others on various forums...thicker base but it also takes up powder space and if not compensated for it can raise the chamber pressures. ${$default_shocked_smiley}$

The_Shadow · November 16 2014 02:15:04 PM MST

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Federal HST +P 147gr HST HP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1100 fps
Muzzle Energy: 394 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Federal Cartridge – Nickel +P
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6865"/Dia. 0.3545": FED 147gr. HST
HP depth 0.1160" / HP dia (tapered) / HP mouth 0.2060" Six long segments
Actual weight 147.8 grains (flat base) (Cannelure) (black sealer)
C.O.A.L.: 1.1260"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3850" Crimp Diameter 0.3775" Length 0.7470"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? AA#5 ? 5.4 grains *
*(fine flatten Ball)( data not shown for +P)

The_Shadow · November 16 2014 03:51:30 PM MST

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Federal 135gr Hydra-Shok JHP (deep post)
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1050 fps
Muzzle Energy: 330 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Federal Cartridge – Nickel
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6150"/Dia. 0.3545": FED 135gr. Hydra-Shok JHP
HP depth 0.2825" past the center post / HP dia 0.1125" (tapered) / HP mouth 0.2015" six short segments
Actual weight 135.6 grains (flat base) (crimp line 0.3540") (small amount black sealant)
C.O.A.L.: 1.0955"
Primer: Small Pistol Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.3850" Crimp Diameter 0.3760" Length 0.7495"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? Auto Comp? 5.2 grains *
(fine flattened ball)

The_Shadow · November 16 2014 04:44:06 PM MST

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Winchester 147 gr Ranger T Series JHP
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1000 fps
Muzzle Energy: 326 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Winchester WIN – Nickel
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6110"/Dia. 0.3550": 147 gr. JHP Ranger T Series
HP depth 0.2370" / HP cavity 0.1400" tapered" / HP mouth 0.1850"
Actual weight 146.6 grains (flat exposed lead base) Crimp line 0.3515"
C.O.A.L.: 1.1180"
Primer: Small Pistol Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.3855" Crimp Diameter 0.3740" (heavy) Length 0.7460"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? non canister ? 4.8 grains *
(very fine flatten ball) (like AA#5)