Springfield is going to produce 10mm guns

[Pablo]

What's this nonsense about 10mm being a Northwest thing?

Because Pablo and bunch of 10mm guys live here. They track where  the ammo is sold. But since I started reloading, maybe they track components and Longshot/AA #9 consumption 

[Vice]

What excites the most about the XD 10 is that they will probably get the grip size correct the first time, unlike my early Glock 20.

Keep in mind that Springfield had a 10 mm way back. It was the Omega. But they screwed it up by making it ported. loud, Loud, LOUD, LOUDER, LOUDEST!!! 

Sorry, my pics will not work on this site.

[BEEMER!]

You're just too sensitive Vice.  The Omega is one of my favorites and I like the porting.

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[Vice]

You're just too sensitive Vice.  The Omega is one of my favorites and I like the porting.

Right you are my friend!  However there was a time I was queer for porting. I ported a lot of my small guns like the Detonics, 357 and 44 mag snubbies.  I loved how the porting tamed the torque.

Another lifetime ago I shot IPSC briefly. Even though I wore double hearing protection, being around ported guns all day and then multiple weekdays in practice, my ears got ruined.

Besides the hearing loss, a rare condition ensued. My hearing became EXTREMELY hypersensitive to noise. I would get an instant migraine from a crying baby, someone clapping their hands, or even the toilet flushing. I actually considered having a nerve cut in my face, 8th nerve(?), that would cause me to go completely deaf.

For twelve years of living hell I had to wear ear molds when I left the house. Very few doctors knew/know of the condition. I was in the medical field at the time and had easy access to research studies. I was able to talk my personal physician into letting me experiment with drugs that were indicated for other things.

Long story short, I've been on a combination drug regimen that has cut my noise triggers by about 85% for 13 years.  I can now live a somewhat normal life.

So now I just want folks to know that Porting does have a downside with excessive noise. I don't usually give my story though.

BTW, nice looking Omega, looks just like mine, except for the cool grips. 

[BEEMER!]

What do yo think of this setup?

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[Vice]

What do yo think of this setup?

I think on the surface it looks like the perfect thing for that light little thing. But unfortunately, too loud for me.  I would have been all over that before my injury.  Since that gun is not usually considered a range gun, I see no danger in a few mags run through it every now and then for your average bear.

I still have a handful of ported pistols. I will probably shoot a few rounds through them at some point, but not many.

[BEEMER!]

I have shot it along side a regular non-ported R9 and with muffs on, I could tell not difference out side.

I have not shot it indoors yet.

[Vice]

I have shot it along side a regular non-ported R9 and with muffs on, I could tell not difference out side.

I have not shot it indoors yet.

Hmm, that's interesting.  Was the recoil noticeably less than the stock R9?

[BEEMER!]

I have shot it along side a regular non-ported R9 and with muffs on, I could tell not difference out side.

I have not shot it indoors yet.

Hmm, that's interesting.  Was the recoil noticeably less than the stock R9?

My main objective was to see how much the porting cut velocity so I took along 3 different factory standard pressure loads to chronograph.

The surprising thing was the velocities came in within 10 fps of each other.  I know that a before and after porting test would prove something but that was not possible.

Federal Hydr-Shoks, 124 gr  -  964 fps
Gold Dot 124 grain               - 1021 fps
Gold Dot 115 grain               - 1062 fps

The recoil reduction was noticeable and especially in the 124 gr GD's.  In those I would estimate the recoil reduction at 20 to 30%.  It really to the snap out of shooting it.

The pistol weighs 15.2 ounces with an empty magazine. The barrel is 2.8" long.

[Vice]

I have shot it along side a regular non-ported R9 and with muffs on, I could tell not difference out side.

I have not shot it indoors yet.

Hmm, that's interesting.  Was the recoil noticeably less than the stock R9?

My main objective was to see how much the porting cut velocity so I took along 3 different factory standard pressure loads to chronograph.

The surprising thing was the velocities came in within 10 fps of each other.  I know that a before and after porting test would prove something but that was not possible.

Federal Hydr-Shoks, 124 gr  -  964 fps
Gold Dot 124 grain               - 1021 fps
Gold Dot 115 grain               - 1062 fps

The recoil reduction was noticeable and especially in the 124 gr GD's.  In those I would estimate the recoil reduction at 20 to 30%.  It really to the snap out of shooting it.



The pistol weighs 15.2 ounces with an empty magazine. The barrel is 2.8" long.

Sounds like a worthwhile modification for that gun. And pretty darn good speed for such a short barrel, and with porting!

[Bruno747]

I would be interested.

I also will believe it when I see it.  They only introduced a 357 Sig because they were loosing big LE contracts by not having one.  And that is only a barrel change from a 40.  So, this seems like lip service to me.

But I hope I am wrong!

You know, it may be because of the success the sig 10mm has had. They run a batch and within a couple months, they are nearly all sold out. They haven't started making other version of the 220 10mm because the Lipseys "limited editions" are selling so well.

Even the tacops they introduced which I thought wouldn't sell to well in 10mm has started to show quite low availability even though it only came out a month or two ago.

I think others are starting to see the recent resurgence of the 10mm and are looking to cash in if even only momentarily.

[Dave84]

I want an OD green xdm bad. Already have the money set aside for when they are available.

[10Tens]

[quot :)e author=4949shooter link=topic=5957.msg65116#msg65116 date=1488029805]
What's this nonsense about 10mm being a Northwest thing?
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Not nonsense..We all pack a 10mm everyday out here. Ain't you ever heard of Bigfoot?  😊

[4949shooter]

[quot :)e author=4949shooter link=topic=5957.msg65116#msg65116 date=1488029805]
What's this nonsense about 10mm being a Northwest thing?

Not nonsense..We all pack a 10mm everyday out here. Ain't you ever heard of Bigfoot?  😊
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Haha I only heard of Sasquatch.

10mm be good medicine for him too. 

[my_old_glock]

Springfield has a deal until June 30 2017. Buy any gun and get 4 magazines, a gun holster, and magazine holster for free.