WFN design for casting/reloading

Started by RobS, February 18 2017 09:18:01 AM MST

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RobS

I'm new to the forum and new to the 10mm caliber.  I am however not new to casting and reloading etc.  Currently I own a Rock Island 5" Rock series 10mm and have had great workup with the Lee 175 TC design bullet running full powder loads.  As a person who enjoys running my own home grown bullets I am wondering who here as run a WFN in their RIA 10mm's.  I've read reports of people running Double Tap 200 grain bullets with nose meplat diameters of .31/.32" without problems in their Rock Islands but have not heard 1st hand from anyone. 

I am looking at a particular mold that would be a solid WFN of 200 grains but also can be hollow pointed to 180 grain.  I started up a thread about this design and hope others will have interest.  http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php/topic,1905.0.html

Thanks in advance.

sqlbullet

I have the 5 cavity aluminum version of the mold you reference, with the hollow point pins.  I like the mold very much.

I do not have a RIA.  I do have a Para P16/40 I converted to 10mm.  The bullets run fine in it as long as I keep the COAL below 1.250.  That gun is pretty finicky about that.

The_Shadow

#2
Welcome to the forum RobS! In my documentations I have seen where DT was seating the WFN down to 1.2420" to allow them the best feeding angles...as the cartridge is entering the chamber as the case head slide up the breech face. 

Different guns handle the feeding of these bullets and experimenting can help determine how yours does.

I cast several but most are the TC design these are the ones I use for 10mm/40 cal.
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erdyalx

I use the exact NOE mould you mention in all of my 40/10mm. It is a great mould.

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winn442

#4
Just got a 215 grain wide meplat 4 cavity mold from Accurate......PC'd and sized to .401, it feeds and chambers fine in my 20 and 29 with LW barrels, along with the DI AR.
Should be good hog medicine, and should make some good sub loads as soon as the stamp comes back for a Dead Air Ghost.



cwlongshot

Thats a good looking bullet Winn!

I have a couple 170 and 200 TC molds but still have yet to buy the. Ullet I really want.
I have bought a few hundred 200 WFNGC bullets from Double tap and aside from poor packaging I like them allot.

I have t shot them thru my Deltas but they are fine thru mu G20 & 29 as well as my MechTech carbine.

I have some somemof the Lyman devestators and up close they are pretty nice!! As cast they expanded voilently on a Coyote I took with one!

I really need to get off my butt and buy a mold!!

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The_Shadow

winn442, welcome to the forum!  Thanks for posting your report.  Great looking bullet  8) and it it is close to what I was going to order.  However I never jumped in with that one.  I do have 4 molds I cast bullets for my 10mm from with the RCBS 200 grain TC SWC dropping at 208 grains. 

I have been wanting to PC some of mine, but just haven't gotten started yet... ::)

Best regards and enjoy the forum!  :D
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Benchrst

My Accurate 40-195G arrived last week, and I cast a few yesterday - nice mold :)

G20.4 / LW / Overwatch / Sevigny

PCFlorida

Quote from: Benchrst on March 05 2017 09:38:06 AM MST
My Accurate 40-195G arrived last week, and I cast a few yesterday - nice mold :)



Nice, once you use PC bullets you can't go back. Close to the price of cast and the performance of a jacketed.
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Benchrst

Quote from: PCFlorida on March 05 2017 11:53:12 AM MST


Nice, once you use PC bullets you can't go back. Close to the price of cast and the performance of a jacketed.

It's almost all I shoot :)
G20.4 / LW / Overwatch / Sevigny

RobS

#10
Well after starting the thread over on the NOE forum and having zip interest I went ahead and just had Tom at Accurate Molds cut me a design to my description too. I didn't see the point in waiting forever on a mold. None the less, a wide flat nosed secant style design with just a touch of draft on the meplat to help with cycling.

http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=40-190R-D.png


It took less than a week this time around from order to my door step. Great customer service and I just hand cycled some into my Rock Island with zero issues. I plan on loading some up in the next week or so and hit the range to see about function. This one is designed to seat at 1.250 to 1.240 COAL. I cast and Hi-Tek coated around 200 today so it won't be long now.

Benchrst

Link didn't work, can you post an image of the design?

G20.4 / LW / Overwatch / Sevigny

RobS


RJM52

Well now I have a problem....  I was looking at the NOE but they don't have the configuration I want available and they don't bother answering my emails as to when it might be available... I've bought several molds from Tom and his service is great...

I was about to order the Accurate 40-215F but I really like that newly designed 40-190R...

Winn442...have you chronographed any loads with that bullet yet?  What powder are you using?

RobS...was wondering what you expect for velocity out of your design...that is a nice looking bullet.

Bob

RobS

I was able to get out today and do some work up.  I had to seat to 1.240" so they would fit in my metalform OEM Rock Island magazines.  I don't know if this is how other 1911 single stack magazines are for 10mm or not but figured others reading might want to know.  I did plan on a 1.250 to 1.240" seating depth when I had the boolit drawn up.  Pretty decent day and accurate to around 2.0" at 20 yards off of a bag.  Zero leading with the Hi-Tek coating so that is a plus too.



Firearm: Rock Island 5" FS with 20 lbs recoil spring, 25 pound main spring and flat bottom firing pin stop.

Bullet:  Accurate Arms 40-190R, Hi-Tek coated (three coats), Wheel Weight alloy and sized at .4015

COAL:  Seated at  1.240"

Powder:  Ramshot Enforcer

Grains: 14

Velocity avg. 1150fps


I would like to push this one out at 1200 to 1250 fps and should be able to do it safety using the slower powder.  Additionally I designed this bullet to maximize case volume which will help put more of the slower powder in the case.


I have used 15 grains of Enforcer with the Lee 401-175-TC mold and it is a good 1280 fps load.