.40 S&W Deep Throat

Started by my_old_glock, February 15 2017 08:54:54 PM MST

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fltbed

Quote from: Mike_Fontenot on February 18 2017 05:15:05 PM MST
I thought that 1911's depended on the forward end of the case encountering the reduced radius in the barrel and resulting in the proper headspacing of the rear of the cartridge properly wrt the "firewall" surface that surrounds the firing pin.  So wouldn't the shorter case slide too far into the chamber, and produce an excessive gap between the rear of the case and the "firewall" surface of the slide?

That is the theory however, I recall articles written in the late 1970's detailing how in autoloading pistol calibers like the 45 acp and 9mm Luger, the cases grow shorter the more times you reload them and that they actually headspace on the extractor.

That is why almost every 10mm autoloading pistol can shoot the shorter 40 S&W in a pinch. 
However, what we're talking about here is using a 40 S&W chambered barrel and 40 ammo seated out to 10mm length.

sqlbullet

Quote from: fltbed on February 19 2017 07:08:59 AM MST
That is the theory however, I recall articles written in the late 1970's detailing how in autoloading pistol calibers like the 45 acp and 9mm Luger, the cases grow shorter the more times you reload them and that they actually headspace on the extractor.

That is why almost every 10mm autoloading pistol can shoot the shorter 40 S&W in a pinch. 

There are a few guns that don't have the extractor strength to counter a firing pin that can reach far into the chamber.  In those cases you can see some ugly brass come out:

http://www.thegunzone.com/10v40.html

Clearly lots of guys shot 40 in their 10mm pistols.  I personally do not.  I see the cost of a 40 barrel to be cheap insurance if I wanna shoot 40 ammo.

And, as fltbed says, this thread is about using a 40 barrel and throating it for long loaded ammo.

Olgo

What's your next project? S&W Does Dallas?  :P
How powerful is 10mm? Well, see those craters on the moon?

my_old_glock

Quote from: Olgo on February 21 2017 05:17:07 AM MST
What's your next project? S&W Does Dallas?  :P

I though about calling it the 40 Lovelace


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Ten2six

I got to try some of the 40 S&W deep throats loaded with 165 gr. Everglades jhp's and 9.3 gr. of Power pistol. Shot through my Bar-Sto 40 S&W barrel in my Delta Elite. Seated to 1.245 functioned the best and produced 1320 fps ave. I like this set up!
Youth and exuberance are no match for age and treachery.

gandog56

Quote from: sqlbullet on February 20 2017 10:00:44 AM MST
Quote from: fltbed on February 19 2017 07:08:59 AM MST
That is the theory however, I recall articles written in the late 1970's detailing how in autoloading pistol calibers like the 45 acp and 9mm Luger, the cases grow shorter the more times you reload them and that they actually headspace on the extractor.

That is why almost every 10mm autoloading pistol can shoot the shorter 40 S&W in a pinch. 

There are a few guns that don't have the extractor strength to counter a firing pin that can reach far into the chamber.  In those cases you can see some ugly brass come out:

http://www.thegunzone.com/10v40.html

Clearly lots of guys shot 40 in their 10mm pistols.  I personally do not.  I see the cost of a 40 barrel to be cheap insurance if I wanna shoot 40 ammo.

And, as fltbed says, this thread is about using a 40 barrel and throating it for long loaded ammo.

Hmmm, me too. I shoot .40 cal in my .40 cal. (Of course my .40 cal also has a barrel for 357 SIG, but that's different)
Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

my_old_glock

Quote from: Ten2six on February 26 2017 06:55:46 PM MST
I got to try some of the 40 S&W deep throats loaded with 165 gr. Everglades jhp's and 9.3 gr. of Power pistol. Shot through my Bar-Sto 40 S&W barrel in my Delta Elite. Seated to 1.245 functioned the best and produced 1320 fps ave. I like this set-up!

Yup, cheap range brass.

How was your accuracy?


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Pablo


Ten2six

Quote from: my_old_glock on February 28 2017 12:08:59 PM MST
Quote from: Ten2six on February 26 2017 06:55:46 PM MST
I got to try some of the 40 S&W deep throats loaded with 165 gr. Everglades jhp's and 9.3 gr. of Power pistol. Shot through my Bar-Sto 40 S&W barrel in my Delta Elite. Seated to 1.245 functioned the best and produced 1320 fps ave. I like this set-up!

Yup, cheap range brass.

How was your accuracy?


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I only had 6 test rounds and one failed to feed, I was testing different seating depths. The accuracy was consistent with standard 40's that I have ran through it. Now that I have the dimensions figured out I will load up a bigger batch, or as I call it another excuse to go shooting. :P
Youth and exuberance are no match for age and treachery.

gandog56

I don't NEED an excuse to go shooting! 8)
Some people think I'm paranoid because I have so many guns. With all my guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?