KIMBER offers more barrel chamber support in 10mm than any other manufactuer?

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Can anyone say if it's true that the two 10mm platforms Kimber offers, the Stainless Target II and the Eclipse Custom II, offer the most barrel chamber support for the 10mm Auto cartridge over any other manufactuer in a bone stock platform that isn't an all out 100% custom gun?

This question is strictly in regard to semi-auto platforms.  Of course a G2 Contender offers the most chamber support of platforms overall.

I can't find info suggesting otherwise, though I'm also far from familiar with all 10mm semi-auto platforms.  I'm just speculating by what I've seen and heard on the WWW.

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I can't say for certain.  I think my Witness Match would be close.

The Kimber's I believe use a Wilson/Nowlin style ramped barrel.  From a ramp/chamber support perspective there is no difference between this style 1911 barrel and the Clark/Para/Lissner(sp?) style.  From an engineering perspective the Clark/Para/Lissner should be have slightly fewer stress points due to more radius cuts where it meets the frame.

I also don't know where Fusion or Dan Wesson would fall on this list.  I would assume their ramped barrel offerings are going to have very similar support to Kimber.

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Kimber

Match

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Springfield Omega Left Dan Wesson RZ-10 Right

Witness Limited: 0.099"
Glock 20: 0.108"
S&W 1006: 0.130"
Kimber STII: 0.132"

Colt Delta Elite Left Dan Wesson Razorback Right

Stock G20 Storm Lake G20 Colt Delta Elite

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The Match sinks the brass below the barrel edges deeper than the Kimber it looks. It's real hard to tell about the ramps of the two. It looks like the Kimber ramp extends more on the bottom of the brass but you would almost have to measure them side by side. The Kimber wall thickness is greater than any other.

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Any chance you could get a single pic of the barrels (with a round in the chamber) from the STII, RZ10, and Elite, side by side together, and at the same angle of a shot you did with the Omega/RZ10 pic below?

Of special mention, whoever at Colt allowed a barrel chambered for 10mm Auto to be as unsupported as they are should be shot in the......nevermind.

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Someone else got those pictures. I can take pictures for the ones I own.

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I guess I should have known they weren't all your pics with the G20 barrel shots in there.

We definately need a better shot of the Kimber barrel support.  Anyone?

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I know we have at least 1 or 2 members who own these.

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We now have great Kimber 10mm barrel chamber support pics, compliments of moodyxt!

After looking over the pics I don't believe any other 10mm semi-auto platform offers more chamber support than Kimber.  It looks clear to me that there isn't even an aftermarket G20 barrel as good.  Argueably equal, but not more supportive.

Thank you very much moodyxt for the pics!

First a family pic of at least some of moodyxt's collection;



4 shots of moodyxt's Kimber barrel;






1 shot of various barrels from the moodyxt collection (Right to Left =  Kimber Stainless Target II barrel, G29 stock barrel, G20 stock barrel, and Lone Wolf 6.6" threaded barrel);




The 1911 fans that are interested in nuclear power 10mm Auto loads may want to give some serious thought to Kimber's offerings.  That's assuming I'm not missing something that is over my head being that I'm generally not a 1911 fan and know little of the ins and outs of 1911 style platforms.

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I think you are right the Kimber looks #1 with the Witness #2. I would buy a Kimber before a Delta but the front serations nailed my choice to the Dan Wesson.

Never really saw anything weird with anything other than a Delta at the range.

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What do you mean by weird?  Are you simply refering to case bulging via lack of support in the Delta chamber?

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Yea. I gave the only 10mm Delta owner that has ever been there a couple of Underwood's and he made them into Delta Bulges for me 

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LOL.  I shouldn't be laughing, it's not funny.   That's just scary.

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The first Kimber pic was of my STII. Total support IMO. That gun handled Swamp Fox's 200 grain 1325's with ease. No bulges from any ammo I shot in it.

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Very good to hear.  Now if the rest of the 10mm firearms manufacturers would follow suit the rest of us wouldn't have to rely on aftermarket barrels to safely handle hot loads.