10mm SA DA (Double Stack) Options

[bowpay]

Quick update...

I decided on the Grand Power P40 10mm.  I have not shot it yet but a couple of initial impressions I wanted to write down. 

1. Really light weight - at least fills that way in the hand vs my 9mm sphinx and other 9mm handguns. 
2. Light weight sort of makes it feel cheap
3. The decocker does not rebound after decocking the gun.  Have no idea why they could add in a spring to bring it back up.
4. Grips are not replaceable as it is all poly
5. Putting it back together is a real PITA!!  I thought I would never get it back together.  I only take it down once in awhile so not a big deal.

If it shoots well I can look past pretty much everything although replaceable grips for G10 would have been a real winner.

Well you need to test that thing by shooting it to make sure it will function reliably.
You also mention the 9mm sphinx...
Now that's a gun I really wish that would have become available for sale here chambered in 10mm...

Sphinx 3000 10mm

Edited to add KRISS response to contact inquiry;
Subject: Contact Us Form KRISS USA
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MAY 19, 2017  |  04:13PM PDT
Gene Yen replied:
Hello Wade,
Thank you for contacting KRISS USA. The SPHINX 3000 series of pistols have been discontinued for several years now. The only way to obtain a SPHINX 3000 chambered in 10mm is to find one second-hand. We are planning to bring back the SPHINX 3000 hopefully in 2018 but it will be chambered in 9mm
Gene Yen | Customer Service

[PCFlorida]

I was looking for a good double stack 10mm in da/sa...  hard to find. Yes there as some as shown, but not what I wanted.

Settled on the Sig 220/10mm just like the first pic ( Lipseys  version )

Today was second day at range... fired DT Hunter and DT Defense.... all fired well not one issue in total of 300+ round ( 5 types of ammo ).
DT cases mic'ed out at a nice .427

Funny you say that because I am going to pull the trigger on a Lipseys version.  I am going to sell this Grand Power.  I live in Brown bear country and I am not going to take the chance on a weapon possibly not working when I need it the most.  Glock would be my other choice but DA only really scares me with accuracy.  I figure the first shot on a DA/SA would possibly frighten what ever is coming at me and the second shot should be dead on.

You have fired 20 rounds and not cleaned or lubed it from the factory? You might be disappointed no matter what you buy. i have both the GP40 and the 220-10 and they both are great shooters with no issues. But I cleaned and lubed them from the factory.

[bowpay]

I was looking for a good double stack 10mm in da/sa...  hard to find. Yes there as some as shown, but not what I wanted.

Settled on the Sig 220/10mm just like the first pic ( Lipseys  version )

Today was second day at range... fired DT Hunter and DT Defense.... all fired well not one issue in total of 300+ round ( 5 types of ammo ).
DT cases mic'ed out at a nice .427

Funny you say that because I am going to pull the trigger on a Lipseys version.  I am going to sell this Grand Power.  I live in Brown bear country and I am not going to take the chance on a weapon possibly not working when I need it the most.  Glock would be my other choice but DA only really scares me with accuracy.  I figure the first shot on a DA/SA would possibly frighten what ever is coming at me and the second shot should be dead on.

You have fired 20 rounds and not cleaned or lubed it from the factory? You might be disappointed no matter what you buy. i have both the GP40 and the 220-10 and they both are great shooters with no issues. But I cleaned and lubed them from the factory.

I will try it out.  I know I should be better with my guns but I have done that with others without problems.  I just keep hearing about issues with the P40.  I am going to pick up a Glock 20 Gen 4 and a P220.  I am on a quest to get the best 10mm for bear country.  I figure I would have all my bases covered with the two that I am adding on.  Going to have a gun sale soon. lol  I no longer want SA guns.

[tommac919]

In all honesty, I carry the Glock 20 when hiking in bear country ( yes only black bears ).
I do it for the 15 rounds.....
To think in that situ you'll even remember pulling the trigger is a lot , you practice hitting a paper plate and pray you keep them that small


Besides, the glock is cheap so I don't worry about it getting wet,etc

[10Tens]

I was looking for a good double stack 10mm in da/sa...  hard to find. Yes there as some as shown, but not what I wanted.

Settled on the Sig 220/10mm just like the first pic ( Lipseys  version )

Today was second day at range... fired DT Hunter and DT Defense.... all fired well not one issue in total of 300+ round ( 5 types of ammo ).
DT cases mic'ed out at a nice .427

Funny you say that because I am going to pull the trigger on a Lipseys version.  I am going to sell this Grand Power.  I live in Brown bear country and I am not going to take the chance on a weapon possibly not working when I need it the most.  Glock would be my other choice but DA only really scares me with accuracy.  I figure the first shot on a DA/SA would possibly frighten what ever is coming at me and the second shot should be dead on.

You have fired 20 rounds and not cleaned or lubed it from the factory? You might be disappointed no matter what you buy. i have both the GP40 and the 220-10 and they both are great shooters with no issues. But I cleaned and lubed them from the factory.

I will try it out.  I know I should be better with my guns but I have done that with others without problems.  I just keep hearing about issues with the P40.  I am going to pick up a Glock 20 Gen 4 and a P220.  I am on a quest to get the best 10mm for bear country.  I figure I would have all my bases covered with the two that I am adding on.  Going to have a gun sale soon. lol  I no longer want SA guns.

I'm not sold on my P40 either. Maybe you will like the Springfield XD -10 when it arrives next year..

[PCFlorida]

The biggest thing the GP has going for it is the rotating barrel. Slows down the action resulting in less recoil and brass that is in the same zip code as you. I have a G20 and G29, some 1911's and a Sig and they are all great, but none of them are really any different recoil wise. The GP is and mine runs great. The Springfield will be nice and I will likely buy one, but it is still a standard Browning design and will likely not be any different as far as recoil and brass ejection goes.

[tommac919]

I can say that the weight on the Sig 220/10 is almost 40 oz...heavy. (g20 is about 30oz )

I've fired the same round ( DT ) in it and a G20/3 with 20 lb spring ... the mass of the Sig made it feel less

[Overkill338]

Maybe its the Glock in my blood, but geez those EAA's are some ugly pieces. No offense to yall to have them. I know lots think Blocks are ugly, but I find them down right sexy: D

[01deuce]

Maybe its the Glock in my blood, but geez those EAA's are some ugly pieces. No offense to yall to have them. I know lots think Blocks are ugly, but I find them down right sexy: D

Really ?

No offense taken, but I feel sorry for you that you are having problems with your eyes!



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[bowpay]

Are there any EAA witness 10mms that have a decocker?  I thought I read the poly version was a decocker and matched what I am looking for.  Also if I wanted to import a Sphinx 3000 10mm how would I go about doing something like that?  I can only imagine something like that will probably run me $3k or more.  It might be worth it to me if it meant I can find the exact gun I am looking for. 

[The_Shadow]

This is what KRISS stated,

KRISS USA. The SPHINX 3000 series of pistols have been discontinued for several years now. The only way to obtain a SPHINX 3000 chambered in 10mm is to find one second-hand.

These were absolutely beautiful guns and it is a damn shame that they are no longer...

[PCFlorida]

They were very cool. I was disappointed when they weren't selling them any more as they were on my to buy list.

[10Tens]

They were very cool. I was disappointed when they weren't selling them any more as they were on my to buy list.
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Check out flint river armory and the new 10mm short stroke gas piston carbine. Looks to be an amazing Gun!

[bowpay]

Last update - I misrepresented what the problem with the P40 was - sorry about that.  It went into battery but didn't reset the hammer.  It seems that the spring is so heavy in the P40 10mm that the slide doesn't slide far enough back to reset the hammer to single action.  I cleaned it up and reoiled it but that grey spring I think is too heavy therefor the slide doesn't come far enough back.  I also had a few cases that locked up inside of the ejection port.  I've read some swapped out their spring.  Also I could only get about 8 rounds in the magazine as the spring is too heavy.  Again I have read that some people have cut down their springs.  To me this is a show stopper.  The last thing I want to do is have to customize my gun to make it just work.  I've decided that with my 1895 SBL as my main defense in bear country an 8+1 is enough ammo by the time I have to actually pull it out to use it.  I am going to give Grey Guns a call today and see if they can lighten up the P220 a little.  40 ounces is a bit heavy so hopefully they can work their magic on it.  It would be nice to take off a few ounces.  The other gun I thought about was the S&W 1076 but at 40 ounces and double the price of a P220 match elite I can't justify 1 more round.  Now if it had 14-17 rounds I would probably take the leap.  I sent an email to Sig about a double stack option and the reply I received was...

"Double stack 10mm –  I can say  we understand the need for one.   "

Maybe we will see a 226 in 10mm?? 

[sstewart]

The Sig 227 could be done in 10mm. The 226 doesn't have the mag capacity. ( big enough for OAL )


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