Parabellum Research PBR 200 FMJ pull-down

[Intercooler]

     Can't wait to see what's in PBR. If it isn't 800-X what could it be?

[The_Shadow]

PBR 200 gr FMJ is NOT IMR800X...AA#9 @ 14.0 grains.  That may yield more than the 1108 fps than they state on their site.
More to come tommorrow! 

[Intercooler]

So it's #9 14.0 grains? Those were the V-Supreme rated at 1250 FPS:

http://www.pbrammo.com/velocity-supreme-10mm-200gr-fmj

[Intercooler]

Quick little search turned up this:

200gr FMJ  15.0 gr AA #9  1,256 fps
Fired from a AMT/IAI, 8 3/8" barrel
Primer: Fed 155

[Intercooler]

Quote:

I would say that AA#9 is the safest powder that can
be used in 10mm pistol shooting because no matter
what weight bullet you want to shoot, I dont think
you can put enough powder in the case to ever cause
a problem. Once you get below 165 grains, you run
out of case space and you cannot even get to the
maximum SAAMI pressure spec. Even then it produces
the highest book max velocities compared to all other
powders on the market. ( 155gr JHP)

For those reasons,
it is my favorite and I cannot see any other powder
competing with it with the possible exception of LongShot.

AA# 9 may not produce the ultimate way over SAAMI
pressure velocities as have 800X, PowerPistol, BlueDot
and some others at hi powder quantities, but what it
does produce is known and predictable and most of
all respectable if not nuclear performance.

[The_Shadow]

I would think that is what they are the others were shown at 1108.  That makes more sense at 1250 fps, I'll have to adjust the advertised data to reflect that velocity.

AA shows  SPR 200 TMJ COAL 1.250"
No.9 12.2 grains @ 1056 FPS
No.9 13.5 grains @ 1200 FPS  36,300 PSI

[The_Shadow]

Parabellum Research PBR 200 FMJ
Ballistics Information: 10mm
Muzzle Velocity: 1250 fps
Muzzle Energy: 693 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line - Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6480"/Dia.0.400": Brass Jacket Montana Gold 200gr. FMJ
C.O.A.L.: 1.2545"
Case: Diameter 0.4215" Crimp Diameter 0.4205" Length 0.9895"
Primer: Brass color possibly Winchester
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ?? (edited 5:10pm 11/21) 14.0 grains. *(The more I study this powder I don't think it is AA#9, I will go back an place a question mark on this one...why I just looked over another load which is AA#9 and did a better comparison and they are very spherical round and dark almost black in color.)
**11/23/2014 **(after seeing the newer lots of AA#9, it is AA#9 which had undergone transformation to more of a flatten ball)
PBR 200FMJ pull down
Tesed 11/29/2012 PBR-Parabellum Research 200 Gr. FMJ 1140 fps : Diameter 0.4270"  primer slightly flatten

[REDLINE]

More to come tommorrow! 

Sweet!  Can't wait.

[Intercooler]

Oh no my ugly left hand writing 

[REDLINE]

Just saw the pics.  If it's not No. 9 I would be surprised.

[Intercooler]

    You plan to fire them and Chronograph again right? Will you be measuring to see what the brass and primer does?

All the brass color primers have been Winchester from what I gather.

[REDLINE]

The_Shadow, did you by chance weigh on of those 200gr FMJ?  I'm curious if they actually come out to exactly 200 grains.

[Yondering]

Those bullets look just like Montana Gold TMJ.

[Intercooler]

That 9mm and Right2Bear would be interesting to see.

[sqlbullet]

Only thing not to like about #9 in 10mm is the cost.  It takes a 50% larger charge of powder by weight.  That has gotta add up.

Makes me wonder if PBR didn't buy up all the vintage pull-down WC820 they could find.  That would put the price per round back on par with longshot or 800-X.  And heaven knows you can't find the Vietnam era WC820 anymore, and the new WC820 is slower.