Suggestion for Gel testing

Started by Overkill338, December 15 2016 06:30:57 AM MST

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Overkill338

One of you handloaders that have access to ballistic gel, should pull some Critical Duty bullets and load them like a full power 10mm 180gr. Then run them into some gel. I just have a feeling that over penetration & under expansion the CD does a lot of, might transform into a helluva good SD round then.

I don't have reloading equipment anymore or I'd be glad to load them. What if I donated the CD ammo to be pulled apart? I'm very curious how it would work. Especially since Hornady told me for the CD to get near 1300 fps, the bullet weight would have to be reduced.

Quote3.       It is very unlikely that the Critical Duty bullet will ever be offered as a component bullet due to the fact that it would require a completely individual bullet seating stem to seat the bullet. If you tried to use a standard seater it would completely crush the profile of the bullet while seating.

4.       I don't foresee us producing a 1300 fps round for the 10 mm due to the following of the SAAMI standards of loading the cartridge. You would very likely have to drop the bullet wt. considerably to get this up to the 1300 fps. 

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The_Shadow

Well back in Sept. 2014 I did a documentation on the hornady-175gr-hornady-critical-duty-flexlock.  I did put it back together without any issues damaging the nose.  However I did experience damage to the nose of the 200 grain XTP when using a compressed loading of AA#9 and it actually caused the bullet to be pushed back out.
Here is that documentation;
http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/hornady-175gr-hornady-critical-duty-flexlock-pull-down/msg20367/#msg20367
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sqlbullet

This big difference is the bullet length.  .7270" for the Critical Defense 180 vs .6215" for the XTP.  That is .010" less case length for powder/initial volume.  Which, for 10mm, translates to 25% less initial volume at the same COAL of 1.260, and 27% less at 1.250"

That means a 25% spike in initial pressure as well.  That puts a max load the drove the XTP to 1350 fps at a pressure of 47,250 PSI if you swap in a Critical Duty 180.

I would have to agree with Hornady's conclusion.  The CD 180 would be considerably behind the XTP in velocity.

Overkill338

The Critical Duty is a 175. Also, with 20 of them you could do a ladder test. I didn't mean swap them over to a max loads. You know, work up  a load like you normally would.
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