POLL: SD Ammo For A Glock 29 (all stock)

[cwlongshot]

Just curious as to why no one considers the 135 grain in 10mm.  It seems it's ballistics are above the old 357 mag 125 grain ballistics and that has an awesome track record.  I have my 10s loaded with 135 grain and have one mag of 135 and another of 180 XTPs for backup.

I like the 135g. BUT... I carry the 10(G29) thru the winter months as its larger and bulkier than I can conceal in a t shirt of summer. (But I prefer the gun) So its also a time when heavier cloths are worn by bad guys too. Under these conditions, I fear over expansion and under penetration.

BUT, I have dusted a couple coyotes from my mec tec using Nosler 135s and BLUE DOT powder at 1600+ fps and I can tell you expansion is VIOLENT!

I like a 155g in the 40 (HOT) and 165g+ in the 10MM with the lion share for carry going to 175/180g and hunting going 200gs.

CW

[Overkill338]

Watch this video on the Underwood 200 XTP from a G20. 16" of penetration, expansion to .680" through denim. I'm going to carry it in my 29. i suspect the 29 would penetrate a little more. It averages 1143 from a G29. 1261 from a G20.

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[Olgo]

When it comes to a short barrel I like to go heavy because they hold their momentum longer, deeper and more weight retention.

Also I wouldn't go under 155 grains with the power of 10mm. This is from Uw I saved in my notes:

grn-veloc-ftlb-pentration
135-1600-767 *10.5"* (G29-1440-622)
155-1500-775 *12.5"*
165-1400-718 *12"*
180-1300-676 *17.75"*
200-1250-694 *16.125"*

As you can see, 180 and 200 has deeper penetrations.

I carry Uw 10mm 200 XTP in my G29.

[Blades]

I have some HPR 200gr XTP's and like them but was concerned they wouldn't expand enough from my G29. The listed muzzle velocity from their website is 1150 fps. If Underwood is 1250 I may need to get a few.

[Overkill338]

Underwoods 200gr XTP's average 1143 from a G29.

Olgo how is recoil?

[Olgo]

Not bad at all. I shot the Uw 180 and it smarted my hand. The 200 didn't.

Blades, It'll expand at lower velocity and because of that they're late bloomers so it'll penetrate deep.

[Shotgun]

Not bad at all. I shot the Uw 180 and it smarted my hand. The 200 didn't.

Blades, It'll expand at lower velocity and because of that they're late bloomers so it'll penetrate deep.

Yep. beavertail ordered for DE.

[Blades]

Underwoods 200gr XTP's average 1143 from a G29.

Olgo how is recoil?

If the Underwoods lose 100fps, then the HPR's probably average 1050fps from the G29.

Not bad at all. I shot the Uw 180 and it smarted my hand. The 200 didn't.

Blades, It'll expand at lower velocity and because of that they're late bloomers so it'll penetrate deep.

But too low of a velocity and it will penetrate too much. Somewhere on here is a video and it didn't do well at too slow of a speed.

[Overkill338]

Blades this is what Hornady said about the 200 XTP.

The 200 gr. XTP has a working velocity range of 700-1200 fps. The bullet was designed around hunting and law enforcement. It would not give the full benefit of the FBI protocol for penetration due to the rapid expansion of the bullet under hydraulic shock.

The FBI standard of 12-18 inches of penetration wasn't put into place because normal size bad guys have chest cavitys 18" thick. It's incase bullets have to go from odd angles or pass through limbs to reach vitals. Even decent 9mm loads can penetrate too deeply with that thinking.

[4949shooter]

Blades this is what Hornady said about the 200 XTP.

The 200 gr. XTP has a working velocity range of 700-1200 fps. The bullet was designed around hunting and law enforcement. It would not give the full benefit of the FBI protocol for penetration due to the rapid expansion of the bullet under hydraulic shock.

The FBI standard of 12-18 inches of penetration wasn't put into place because normal size bad guys have chest cavitys 18" thick. It's incase bullets have to go from odd angles or pass through limbs to reach vitals. Even decent 9mm loads can penetrate too deeply with that thinking.

True. In the infamous Miama-Dade FBI shootout, the Winchester Silvertip in 9mm fired by an FBI agent penetrated Platt's bicep and entered his chest cavity. However, the bullet fell short of his heart, and Platt was able to inflict a good amount of damage on the FBI agents even after sustaining this hit.

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A hit that WAS fatal, just not fatal quickly.

[Shotgun]

This is a great thread!

[Overkill338]

This is a great thread!

Yes sir it is! It all started because I'm indecisive and couldn't choose a carry load for my new Glock 29. I have since settled on the Underwood 200 XTP, putting aside my love affair with Gold Dots

Yes It Is, and It All Started

[Dave84]

Have you considered the 200 grain nosler? More expansion with these I believe. Good choice all the same.

[Olgo]

Nosler, XTP and GD all are gonna be good performer. As long as they are 200 grains they are gonna be very serious problems out of the G29 to baddies.