UW 200gr XTP

Started by mt10mm, October 29 2016 06:43:54 AM MDT

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mt10mm

I have sold my G20 and have now gone to my G29 for edc and woods carry. What are your thought on th 200gr XTP from the factory length g29 barrel? Will they perform as needed as g29 short barrel velocity?

Blades

They might. From what I have read and watched on youtube they don't expand as well from the shorter barrel so they should penetrate deeper. Now we need someone to confirm. :)
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sqlbullet

Should be fine.  You will still have the velocity of a 180 grain 40S&W from a full size gun.

mt10mm

I going to email Hornady and see what they saw.

harrygunner

The Underwood 200gr XTP is what I use in my 10mm handguns. I chronographed them (and a couple more) from my  Glock 29 with a standard barrel and standard recoil spring rate.

Underwood ammo:

180gr XTP : 1263, 1266, 1255, 1253, 1299 : avg 1267 ft/s  640 ft-lb
200gr XTP : 1133, 1120, 1141, 1153, 1170 : avg 1143 ft/s  579 ft-lb
220gr HC  : 1075, 1082, 1084, 1104, 1094 : avg 1088 ft/s  577 ft-lb


Rojo27

MT10mm,
I think you're definitely good to go with the UW 200gr XTP out for your G29.  Possibly even an ideal combination. 
Think we can nail this one down pretty definitively.   
Using the chronographed velocities harrygunner shared & the work done by raggedyman we can see exactly what will happen.
raggedyman tests pf 200gr XTP at various fps....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPs2EsdmQS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEqEC8mZLg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIeiWem_xSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc3_TaAldVo

You'll get good performance (expansion & penetration) out of the 200gr XTP down to about 1050 fps...
Expect you'd get between 15" to 20" of penetration in gel & 579 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle.  That's a party I'd like to avoid.
Unless of course you expect to bump into a big Brown Bear but we've covered that thread several times.
Regards.

Mike D

Quote from: Rojo27 on October 29 2016 04:18:33 PM MDT
MT10mm,
I think you're definitely good to go with the UW 200gr XTP out for your G29.  Possibly even an ideal combination. 
Think we can nail this one down pretty definitively.   
Using the chronographed velocities harrygunner shared & the work done by raggedyman we can see exactly what will happen.
raggedyman tests pf 200gr XTP at various fps....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPs2EsdmQS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEqEC8mZLg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIeiWem_xSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc3_TaAldVo

You'll get good performance (expansion & penetration) out of the 200gr XTP down to about 1050 fps...
Expect you'd get between 15" to 20" of penetration in gel & 579 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle.  That's a party I'd like to avoid.
Unless of course you expect to bump into a big Brown Bear but we've covered that thread several times.
Regards.

Agreed. For personal defense against 2 legged critters, I'd drop down to the 180 gain XTP or even better the 180 grain Gold Dot by Underwood or roll your own with some pulled 180 grain HSTs.


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Olgo

It's what I carry in my G29.  :D
How powerful is 10mm? Well, see those craters on the moon?

Overkill338

I would LOVE to see a gel test with 180gr HST  at full tilt!

I'm also leaning towards the 200gr XTP from Underwood for my Glock 29.
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Olgo

It's a good choice. Heavy bullets loses less velocity from a short barrel so  a 200 grain slug with a power of full house 10mm means real bad news for the baddies.  8)
How powerful is 10mm? Well, see those craters on the moon?

Overkill338

#10
Underwood is OOS on the 200 XTP. Would I be served just as well with the 200 Nosler? It is the load I was going to buy from DT before I found out my old buddy Mike McNett has become a cheat and a liar.

I've always carried Gold Dots, and in tnoutdoors9's video, from the G20,  UW's 180 Gold Dot nearly tore itself apart. That's the main reason I'm looking at 200 grain rounds. I'm going to contact ATK and ask why they don't make a 200 grain Gold Dot & HST for the 10mm crowd.
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Olgo

I'm not familiar with Nosler but I haven't heard any bad about Underwood ammo so I think you're good to go.
How powerful is 10mm? Well, see those craters on the moon?

Overkill338

A 200 grain slug at 1143 fps, I'm not volunteering to take one in the chest! Plus that's faster than a .40 can push a 180 from a G22.
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Olgo

For sure. Even the Uw 10mm 180 will be just as bad to them. I would go no lower than 180.
How powerful is 10mm? Well, see those craters on the moon?

Overkill338

I'd just like to add, I ran the numbers in a free recoil calculator. The 200gr XTP has less recoil than the 180's.
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