Bren Ten Special Forces

Started by romeolima, October 20 2016 04:39:22 PM MDT

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blaster

so why was the Bren Ten discontinued? it looks like a stout pistol. bad marketing or business practice?

Intercooler

Didn't sqlbullet have a document with barrel, frame and slide weights? I can't find it!

The_Shadow

Quote from: blaster on October 21 2016 05:58:32 PM MDT
so why was the Bren Ten discontinued? it looks like a stout pistol. bad marketing or business practice?

Dornaus And Dixon had some issues early on as they were working on milling machines that were not CNC. Some of the slides had small imperfection anomalies such as voids.   But the major down fall was the magazines, some batches were not up to spec, as many guns shipped without them.  Returned guns were not being repaired in a timely manner and that also led to the down turn...
Thomas Dornaus was very much the perfectionist and things didn't sit well with him...
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Rojo27

Outstanding addition to any collection.  Great looking Bren 10 you got there! 
Congrats and thanks for for sharing pics.

inv136

That Special Forces model is a beautiful 10mm. I wanted to order one of these and the standard one when I first saw the ads for them from Dornaus & Dixon. After I read the problems with customers only receiving one and maybe no magazines with the gun I decided to wait to place an order until after they ironed out the problems. I wish I hadn't waited. My last hope was for the VLTOR Bren Ten project that tanked without warning. Congratulations on your Special Forces model. You might try and contact VLTOR and ask if they have any Bren Ten magazines they made and see if they would sell some of them. Probably not, but, you never know.

Pumpkinheaver

Almost 40 years later and I don't think they make a 10mm as good looking as the Bren Ten.

Sneed

Quote from: blaster on October 21 2016 05:58:32 PM MDT
so why was the Bren Ten discontinued? it looks like a stout pistol. bad marketing or business practice?
In addition to what has been said a good portion of their financial plan was to presell pistols promising delivery when the design was ready to go. I remember this as I pre-bought two and am still awaiting delivery. So when they were finally almost ready, "almost" as the magazine problem was never fully resolved, they were taking in no additional income from deliveries and eventually had no financial resources left to continue. As I recall they did try to continue by selling a portion of the guns that were complete rather than deliver them to those who had paid but their inability to deliver good guns with functioning magazines killed this effort as well. Potentially a great pistol ruined by an inferior business plan. They also made things worse by continually changing the specs so they were always catching up rather than moving forward.
No matter how cynical you become, it is never enough to keep up. Lily Tomlin

Intercooler

Hello again!

           I always like to see internals of pistols. Would it be possible to get a picture of the barrel with a round slid in place for chamber support? Possibly the frame rails and slide with guide rod/spring? sqbullet has a list somewhere with weights  ???

BEEMER!

This is not a Special Forces, but it is about as nice of a Standard Model that I have seen.

It is an early model when they were taking special care with the bluing and finish.  Things go pretty sloppy at the end.

Notice the engraved serial number which they were doing at first, the nicer finish and bluing, and the early ones had blued barrels like this also.  This one appears unfired.

I also have a couple of shooters, I know this is a shooting board and not one for collectors. ;)

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BEEMER!

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The_Shadow

Thanks Beemer...adds more credibility on the files.  8)
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Ampb5rider

Very nice Pistols Gentlemen, I to was able to acquire a standard model with one mag. My pride and joy! A delta Elite or two and a G20. Yes a 10mm love affair! Was on a list for the Falcon ten, after they bought the rights, but alas, that never came to be. The Armalite 24 is a close rendition in 9 mike mike.

The_Shadow

Ampb5rider, Welcome to the forum glad to hear of another Bren owner.  You should post some pictures.

The Peregrine Falcon was set into motion March of 1991, for the 10mm Phoenix.  By April 15 1991, they expressed changes to internals were to be done before the pistols shipped late fourth quarter.  That set the brakes on its forward momentum. 
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Bozz10mm

Very nice Bren. And welcome to the forum.