10mm gel tests

Started by Raggedyman, November 08 2012 09:39:36 AM MST

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The_Shadow

I was able to extract the screen shots from Greg's document and load them into my Photobucket, then add them to his original post as pictures.  I don't feel the pressure values are correct in the QL estimations for the longer Barnes Bullet calculations.  I will say this is the kind of depiction that will have you scratching your head and flinching as you pull the trigger...... :o

Thanks for sharing the data Greg!
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Geeman

Quote from: The_Shadow on January 05 2014 10:14:52 AM MST
I was able to extract the screen shots from Greg's document and load them into my Photobucket, then add them to his original post as pictures.  I don't feel the pressure values are correct in the QL estimations for the longer Barnes Bullet calculations.  I will say this is the kind of depiction that will have you scratching your head and flinching as you pull the trigger...... :o

Thanks for sharing the data Greg!

I absolutely agree with that.  Powder is traditionally ignighted with the primer so all, or at least most of the kernels are started at the onset.  I believe the compressed pellet is ignighted as a unit, burning toward the core as it moves down the barrel.   

Quickload won't take that into account, but my uneducated guess is that's what is happening.

Greg

Raggedyman

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Quote from: 4949shooter on January 05 2014 09:11:13 AM MST
Quote from: Raggedyman on November 26 2013 04:05:25 PM MST


Wow....that Norma load really penetrated. It rocked the gel too!

I would like to come to your range to do some coyote hunting.  8)

It's near Table Mesa. I've seen a couple coyote out there when bunny hunting but it's a pretty heavily used area for shooting, hunting, off roading, horse back riding, etc. Probably have better luck calling near Bloody Basin. Definitely something I want to try. I've got a great rifle for the purpose. Maybe this year....






For reference, I haven't measured the C.O.P. bullet as a component but a 155 gr TAC-XP is longer than a 200 gr XTP at 0.737" for the TAC-XP and 0.676" for the XTP.

4949shooter

That's a nice calling setup. Definitely not legal in NJ!

Retired Squid

I just came from my shop after checking my manual and measurements on first try of 140 gr Barnes SCHP was 7.5gr of WSF by Winchester. I decided to see where the Barnes 140gr SCHP bullet seated and max amount of PP w/o compressing and it was 10.5g of powder.

I loaded a few at 10gr to try, but weather has put the kibosh on that idea for a while I guess. Over night low predicted to be -1 and 6 degrees for high tomorrow, think I need to be further south.
22LR for plinking, 357 for paper, 10mm for when 45ACP's not enough.

The_Shadow

Retired Squid, they will be nice shooters at 10.0 grains of PP.  I think they will be about 1300-1325 fps, 8.0 grains PP gave 1225 fps for the 140's when I was doing my initial test.

i'll be looking for your post and range report... 8)
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Raggedyman

Quote from: 4949shooter on January 05 2014 03:23:47 PM MST
That's a nice calling setup. Definitely not legal in NJ!

LOL, no. I had in mind a sort of 3-gun/SPR type mission for it but it would probably be great for 'yotes. I know this isn't the best group ever, especially for teh interwebz where everyone shoots 0.25" groups with their Yugo M59/66 at 500 yards but this is my best group yet with that rifle. Ammunition was 69 gr Nosler partition over 24.0 gr AA2460 and LC brass with Wolf primers. Distance was a laser ranged 104 yards.


Retired Squid

Quote from: The_Shadow on January 05 2014 03:51:46 PM MST
Retired Squid, they will be nice shooters at 10.0 grains of PP.  I think they will be about 1300-1325 fps, 8.0 grains PP gave 1225 fps for the 140's when I was doing my initial test.  I was guessing 1300-1350fps range so that will be about right for proper expansion in a hog or deer.  8)

i'll be looking for your post and range report... 8)  Don't hold your breath my friend, likely to be a while before weather warms up enough.  :(
22LR for plinking, 357 for paper, 10mm for when 45ACP's not enough.

The_Shadow

The weather here is wet raining and wind is blown as the cold front is coming, we will be 19 degrees Tuesday morning.  To some this isn't all that cold till you factor in the Louisiana/Gulf humidity that lets the temps cut threw you like a knife down here.  Temps swing from 65 today to freezing
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Geeman

Quote from: The_Shadow on January 05 2014 06:37:50 PM MST
The weather here is wet raining and wind is blown as the cold front is coming, we will be 19 degrees Tuesday morning.  To some this isn't all that cold till you factor in the Louisiana/Gulf humidity that lets the temps cut threw you like a knife down here.  Temps swing from 65 today to freezing

Tonight's low of -21F air temp.  Tomorrow's high supposed to to be -13F.

Wind chills -50 to -60.

I'm ready for spring.  Winter's been to long already.

Greg

Retired Squid

I hate it when we have those 35 to 40 degree weather changes it sure fires up the arthritis something fearful, the normal 20 degree swings here is bad enough.  :o Man oh man why did I retire here instead of Gulf Coast???
22LR for plinking, 357 for paper, 10mm for when 45ACP's not enough.

Raggedyman

nelson.jpg

70's here far as the eye can see. This is the time of year to get tests done. During the summer time I have to rush through them to avoid the blocks heating in the sun and sometimes I forget something or screw something up, invalidating a test. B E A utiful right now.  ;D

Intercooler

Next test can you run the Black Max rounds?

Retired Squid

Quote from: Raggedyman on January 06 2014 08:43:15 AM MST
nelson.jpg

70's here far as the eye can see. This is the time of year to get tests done. During the summer time I have to rush through them to avoid the blocks heating in the sun and sometimes I forget something or screw something up, invalidating a test. B E A utiful right now.  ;D
Ouch...you have kick a man that's down.  ;)
22LR for plinking, 357 for paper, 10mm for when 45ACP's not enough.

4949shooter

Quote from: Raggedyman on January 05 2014 05:30:04 PM MST
Quote from: 4949shooter on January 05 2014 03:23:47 PM MST
That's a nice calling setup. Definitely not legal in NJ!

LOL, no. I had in mind a sort of 3-gun/SPR type mission for it but it would probably be great for 'yotes. I know this isn't the best group ever, especially for teh interwebz where everyone shoots 0.25" groups with their Yugo M59/66 at 500 yards but this is my best group yet with that rifle. Ammunition was 69 gr Nosler partition over 24.0 gr AA2460 and LC brass with Wolf primers. Distance was a laser ranged 104 yards.



She shoots nice. Definitely take out a coyotes' brain stem with that!  ;D