10mm gel tests

[Raggedyman]

10mm CORBON 135 gr Pow'RBall

10mm CORBON 135 gr Pow'RBall fired from 4.5" bbl EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB calibration: 600.8", 3.5"

Impact velocity: (Err), 1,425 fps
Penetration: 8.6", 8.6"
Retained weight: 129.3 gr, 122.9 gr
Max expansion: 0.848", 0.882"
Min expansion: 0.794", 0.702"







10mm Double Tap 200 gr Nosler

10mm Double Tap 200 gr Nosler fired from 4.5" bbl EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB calibration: 582.9", 3.25"

Velocity: 1,076, (Err)
Penetration: 14.8", 15.5"
Retained weight: 193.8 gr, 192.7 gr
Max expansion: 0.704", 0.679"
Min expansion: 0.662", 0.572"

[sqlbullet]

Makes me glad I have 250 of those noslers on my shelf.

[REDLINE]

10mm CORBON 135 gr Pow'RBall fired from 4.5" bbl EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB calibration: 600.8", 3.5"

Impact velocity: (Err), 1,425 fps
Penetration: 8.6", 8.6"
Retained weight: 129.3 gr, 122.9 gr
Max expansion: 0.848", 0.882"
Min expansion: 0.794", 0.702"

Holy Pancakes!   I'm surprised they even held together as well as they did.

[REDLINE]

10mm Double Tap 200 gr Nosler fired from 4.5" bbl EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB calibration: 582.9", 3.25"

Velocity: 1,076, (Err)
Penetration: 14.8", 15.5"
Retained weight: 193.8 gr, 192.7 gr
Max expansion: 0.704", 0.679"
Min expansion: 0.662", 0.572"

Thanks a ton for checking the velocity!  Came out a little less than I was thinking and a little more than sqlbullet was thinking.  No question the velocity sucks though.

Now what I'ld really like to see are those 200gr JHP Nolsers at ~200 FPS higher velocity into the gel.  Maybe someday.

[Raggedyman]

Put the two of you together and you've got a crystal ball. "When our powers combine...."

[Raggedyman]

Atomic 10mm video


10mm Atomic 180 gr Hex plated fired from 4.5" bbl EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB calibration: 585.0, 3.1"

Impact velocity: 1,251 fps
Penetration: greater than 17.7"
Retained weight: N/A
Expansion: N/A

Both shots experienced significant fragmentation and deviated, exiting the side of the block.

[REDLINE]

Don't know how those hex bullets do against barriers in the mix, but against the bare gel I'm fairly impressed.

[Raggedyman]

Like I said in the other thread: it's not conclusive without the recovered bullet to analyze but it appears to me that the bullet failed. 17" is excessive for that weight and velocity so I think the petals folded back and separated relatively early. The .357 Hex that I tested the same day (on my YouTube channel if you want to see)  failed to expand entirely. Between those two results, I'm not impressed.

[Intercooler]

The Atomic .357's I sent down to you are 1300 FPS and should open up nicely instead of just keep going. They may also fail too though 

[Ramjet]

Right?

My CCW is a Glock 23. In my 10mm, which I OC, I'm really starting to lean towards a powderpuff 180 gr for personal defense. Something hotter than .40 but not by much. Say 1,100-1,150 fps. Gold Dots and others do a fantastic job at those speeds and less recoil means faster shooting. If I can get that 200 gr XTP to work right through denim, I'd like to use that for camping/hiking here in the low country. I've got high hopes for the Winchester JSP for deep penetration and moderate expansion and if that works I'd like to use that for high country carry. A 155 gr Gold Dot or 135 gr Nosler should work really well for hunting javelina or 'yotes.

I just chronographed Federal Personal Defense Hydra Shoks 180grain out of my 6" longslide and it came up with 1070 low side to 1074 on the low side. I have also run drills with these in my standard model 20 they are controllable and if they mimic any of the other well known Hydra-Shok loads should be great choice for a defensive round in the 10mm. I will run some with the standard slide on and post those results.

Standard model Glock 20 the velocity was 998 FPS average 6 shot string for the Federal Personal Defense Hydra-Shok

[Ramjet]

I would love to see hyper speed DRT 105 grain bullets in gelatin just out of curiosity. I carry what has a track record and is proven but it would be interesting to see that.

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...it's not conclusive without the recovered bullet to analyze...

It will be cool to see how it works out if you get a chance to run that hex one again if the bullet stays in the gel.

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I just chronographed Federal Personal Defense Hydra Shoks 180grain out of my 6" longslide and it came up with 1070 low side to 1074 on the low side.

Standard model Glock 20 the velocity was 998 FPS average 6 shot string for the Federal Personal Defense Hydra-Shok

That's where it gets to the point nothing is beneficial over a standard 40S&W load.  At that point I just don't see the point anymore.

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I would love to see hyper speed DRT 105 grain bullets in gelatin just out of curiosity.

Me too.  I wonder if they reach 6".

[Ramjet]

Fragments might. Want some to try?

I have shot deer with the .223 it is impressive how they drop